Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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07/19/18 02:51 AM
07/19/18 02:51 AM
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I've got three places on my legs from brown recluse spider bites, they are small 1/2 a dime sized brown hard skin areas that itched like heck for weeks after the bite. I just happened to see the first one bite me ( you'll not feel it, they inject a numbing agent) so I grabbed it up & went to the ER. Contrary to the popular belief they will not cause large flesh rottage as I was lead to believe. I'm allergic to to almost any venous insect bites/stings and it didn't effect me that way. Nor my daughter, one bite, same results. Just our results.
Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: Eric B]
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07/19/18 09:18 AM
07/19/18 09:18 AM
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Harley, it must effect different people in different ways, because there was a kid in my high school that got bit and nearly lost his arm. Skin was stuffing off and he has massive scars on that arm. A partner of mine was bit twice in the span of a few minutes grabbed the spider and headed to the hospital. Same terrible flesh damage as listed here. This was up by Grand Rapids MN, brown recluse. Just a couple Years ago. Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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07/19/18 10:12 AM
07/19/18 10:12 AM
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Would not know where to look here we get the lake bugs (midges) here by the millions and along with that come the big juicy spiders by the thousands. I bet I kill 20 spiders a day here in the summer in the house. In the fall I have to broom the house the spider webs will just cover everything in webs, just letting the chickens out first thing it looks like a horror movie going through the webs in the AM. Went to put the truck in the shed yesterday and had to move the welder and 2 spiders were going at it where the wire comes out of the box so many they eat each other.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: Ringbill5196]
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07/19/18 12:44 PM
07/19/18 12:44 PM
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Story says only 10% have serious issue after being bitten... I took a bite on the wrist in Alabama in '77 and spent the night in the hospital with severe pain, gruesome swelling, vomiting, dizziness, sweats and a blinding headache. Sick for a few days and the bite site was nasty and oozed for a few weeks, but I didn't have the terrible necropsy that many people suffer. I had a dent there for the longest time, but these days the scar is hard to find.
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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07/19/18 02:22 PM
07/19/18 02:22 PM
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I’ve heard the sentiments on Tman about global warming but I think it does play a role in insect and animal migrations. When I first studied brown recluse spiders in 1974, back in medical entomology classes, the spider was found deep in the south. In the 1980s, it was being found in northern Oklahoma. Today they’re found in Wisconsin and Minnesota! Aedes Ibopictus mosquitoes, often called the Tiger mosquito came to Minnesota via unwrapped tires from Mexico. Apparently our winters are no longer cold enough to keep them from hatching. The same has been found to be true with raccoons in Canada. I remember reading back in the 1970s and 80s that there might be a few in Canada. Now there are harvestable populations of them up there and Canadian Tman members talk about sizable catches.
Spiders often travel on the wind, on packaging transported from different parts of the country and so on. Favorable weather patterns allow it to thrive. It would not surprise me to see Zika virus become endemic in Minnesota in the next 10-15 years because the mosquito carrier eggs can survive here due to warmer winters.
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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07/19/18 02:46 PM
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There are advanced scouts, I’m sure. Back in 1981, medical detectives weren’t as well equipped as they are today. If you do a search, based on confirmed bites of the brown recluse, I’m sure you’ll find a map of movement over time.
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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07/19/18 02:52 PM
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Speaking of advanced scouts, I was just telling my wife about a tanned martin skin I was showing someone at the trapper’s booth at the Winona Co fair, last weekend. Anyway, when I was 15, in 1965, I came across a mink like animal that had been hit by a car. It had an orange patch on its throat. From descriptions in F-F-G, I knew it was a martin. This was near Eau Claire, WI and to this day, I don’t know if martins are found in any numbers there or not.
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Re: Brown recluse spiders
[Re: AJE]
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08/15/18 12:46 AM
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harleydparts
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Interesting, myself who quits breathing when stung by a common honey bee has very little reaction to a brown recluse spider bites and yet we see where different folks react so differently. Different type of venom effecting different folks differently. E. shell almost described the effects of a black widow spider on my wife although it was a brown recluse that bit him. Here's a potentially life saving technique for you all who are severely allergic to different types of venom or maybe it's just a screw it I got nothing to lose attitude. As I understand it the medical way to keep you from dying from an allergic reaction is to pump you with adrenaline to shoot the poison thru your system quickly and flush it out. I got busted in the Alagash wilderness way up in Maine by a bunch of bee's while clear cutting, by the time I cleared the 200 yards thru waist high downed tree's to my truck I was wide open and just exuding adrenaline. I was 20 miles from nowhere so why was I in a hurry to die beside my truck? Don't know but I dropped and did push-ups & sit-ups till I pucked and then past that. All I could think was adrenaline was adrenaline, get it going. I was 24 then, I'm 59 now, I'd probably saw 'well, screw it, at least I'm not dieing on a Beemer'. I just really don't like Beemer riders. Ask me why.
Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
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