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Voter fraud ... It never happens? #6301621
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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: charles] #6301832
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Every year more vote fraud comes to light. If people knew how much has been going on... we'd be shooting already.


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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: charles] #6301836
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My wife has been an election judge for about 20 years. She said you wouldn't believe how easy it would be to commit election fraud.


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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: charles] #6301839
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Many places have over 100% voter turn out every election if you need a ID to cash a check then you can bet they have one to vote then! LOL States give free or cheap IDs so that is not a reason either pure corruption is the only reason it's not needed in some places.


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Nope it don't happen. Fraud of any kind is just a myth. whistle

Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: charles] #6301874
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I'd caution you that it's racist to even suggest such a thing.


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Does anyones state require a legal id to vote? Out here when we vote in person,we have to show a legal government issued id (DL, military, passport, ccw etc...) just to get our ballots.

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not a problem...they all vote Democrat.

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Wisconsin was considered a "Blue" State for far too long. Despite poll after poll showing 70-80% of Wisconsinites self identify as Conservatives. Despite report after report of vote fraud.

Then... Voter ID was passed. Majority "Red" ever since. Funny how that works. wink


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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: adam m] #6302046
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Originally Posted By: adam m
Does anyones state require a legal id to vote? Out here when we vote in person,we have to show a legal government issued id (DL, military, passport, ccw etc...) just to get our ballots.


Same here and the lady I show my ID to buys eggs from me! LOL


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Yep, I am on our town board, plan commission, etc. and still have to show the nice ladies my ID or I don't vote.

LOL Zim

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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: adam m] #6302069
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Originally Posted By: adam m
Does anyones state require a legal id to vote? Out here when we vote in person,we have to show a legal government issued id (DL, military, passport, ccw etc...) just to get our ballots.


Oklahoma requires identification and you must sign alongside your name in the registration log.

Mike


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Re: Voter fraud ... It never happens? [Re: DuxDawg] #6302074
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Originally Posted By: DuxDawg
Every year more vote fraud comes to light. If people knew how much has been going on... we'd be shooting already.


Yup

I think California alone has 3 extra representatives due to illegals aliens being counted in censuses. They are soon to let those same illegals vote on state matters. Which nobody thinks matters if you don't live in that state or similar states with similar fraud. But it does!

Right now conservatives own house and Senate but can't get anything done due to
"Lack of votes". Just take away the representation California alone has by counting illegals in censuses and we would have all the votes we needed! Now subtract all the Democratic representation that has been voted into power by illegal vote and other voter fraud and I doubt you would hear a peep out of the Democratic party.


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It is the disenfranchisement of the American citizen!

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I have a hard time believing there is much voter fraud.

In our state to vote you have to be registered and when I voted last we had to show 2 kinds of identification to vote and I have voted in the same place since I was 21 and I am now 69.

I find it hard to believe there are precincts that have over 100% turnout in voting. How do you get more than 100% of registered voters to the polls?

If memory serves me right there were 2 cases of voter fraud in Iowa last general election and one was a convicted felon who thought his voting rights had been reinstated. I can't remember the circumstances of the other.

I'm not saying there isn't voter fraud but cannot believe it is a problem especially here in Iowa.

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I think it is the Heritage Foundation that keeps a running total on vote fraud CONVICTIONS. The last time I looked at that list it was over 700 CONVICTIONS.

That makes me believe there is way more fraud than is being detected and prosecuted


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I thought there was a bipartisan congressional investigation within the last couple of years that concluded that significant voter fraud has not occurred. I don't know how they determined that, but there was no Republican outcry from that conclusion. Did I dream that or is my recollection correct?

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Seems I heard just last week about 100,000 illegal voters in PA alone. Maybe I remember that wrong but it seems familiar.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/26/lawsuit-100000-noncitizens-registered-vote-pa/

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In NC you tell the poll worker your name, she looks you up in a book, and allows you to vote. No ID required to prove who you claim you are. We also have a procedure for same day registration, and allow people to vote if they show up at a different precent!

Can you imagine this?

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I suspect most large scale voter fraud is committed by the poll workers themselves. It would not be hard to fill out ballots, for people who failed to vote and to enter them in the machine or ballot box. I think this is why many city precincts get huge percentages of their potential voters, all voting democrat, while turn out in other similar precincts is poor and mixed.

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Wait until next election....we haven't seen the beginning of it. And as mentioned, why is it always the Democrats that "find" or "discover"
missing or unaccounted votes? Why weren't they in the ballot box at first count?


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Supposedly if we make people vote in their districts or register or prove who they say they are it’s preventing minorities from voting.


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There was a report In last weeks elections. Ohio district 12 had 170 people on the voting rolls that where 116 years old.


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“An article by The Washington Times from January 2017 reported that political experts at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia conducted a national survey that estimated of the believed 20 million non-citizen adults living in the U.S., approximately 6.4% illegally voted in 2016, which equates to more than 1.2 million illegally cast votes.“

That’s a excerpt from a column in the Daily Wire by Ryan Saavedra. Pretty scary to me. I wonder why the Dems don’t want voter ID laws to pass!!


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A photo ID should be required to vote everywhere in the US. It's ridiculous to not do it that way.
Out here in the boonies, the poll workers greet nearly all of us by name as approach the table to sign the book.

BTW, election fraud is not just about voting illegally and it's done by people who are members of my republican party just as it it with the dems.

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I’m sure republicans vote fraud happens gryhkl, but what percentage of those 1.2 million illegal votes went to republicans. I’m betting not many


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You are probably right, Pawnwee, but I think the numbers are over estimated.
Election fraud takes place in areas other than just voting though.

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The numbers could be inflated. A big part of me hopes they are


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Originally Posted By: adam m
Does anyones state require a legal id to vote? Out here when we vote in person,we have to show a legal government issued id (DL, military, passport, ccw etc...) just to get our ballots.

For sure. where I vote in a tiny little town and everybody knows everybody even the ballot folks. PROPER ID Is required and no ballots are given. Where the H*ll do these other city folks get away with it.
This Country isn't going to last much longer the way were going.At least the way I remember it was.

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I'd caution you that it's racist to even suggest such a thing.


I did not open the link, but why do you say it is racist to even suggest it?


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I'd caution you that it's racist to even suggest such a thing.


I did not open the link, but why do you say it is racist to even suggest it?


I’m just guessing, but I think his point was. The libs label everyone that disagrees with them on this subject racist.


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They have proved that just in the last couple special elections people drove from out of state to vote. As in: residents from other states being bussed in and most likely paid to vote in other states elections.

When these elections are being won by just 1000s of votes. Even the smallest of fraud can swing an election.

Just u deciding your vote doesn't matter could swing it!!

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How many Americans don't get off of their rears and vote is another big problem! mad


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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
How many Americans don't get off of their rears and vote is another big problem! mad


Yup

If an individual has any responsibility at all in the goings on of this nation? It is their civic duty to vote!

But not just to vote! But to educate themselves in why they are voting for who they are voting!

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Originally Posted By: beeman
I have a hard time believing there is much voter fraud.

The buzz word for that these days is "confirmation bias".

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I find it hard to believe there are precincts that have over 100% turnout in voting. How do you get more than 100% of registered voters to the polls?

Quite simply. Get more *eligible* and/or *ineligible* voters to the polls. The number of registered is always lower than the other two categories.

A more signifigant issue than percent of registered is eligible. Wrap your head around 350% of *eligible* voters casting votes in a precinct.

Illinois, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New York, etc are well know for having more votes than *eligible* voters in many precincts. Have been for my ENTIRE half century of stomping around this mud ball.

Haven't you heard the numerous jokes about dead people voting Democrat?? Where you think they came from?

We routinely see out of State buses, large passenger vans, etc taking up all the parking for several BLOCKS around polling places.

I have stood in line to vote and listened to people comparing notes on how many places they had voted at THAT DAY and what they were going to get for voting so much. (Meals, cigarettes, etc.)

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If memory serves me right there were 2 cases of voter fraud in Iowa last general election...


Two that you remember. How many were reported that you don't remember? How many were never reported?



Vote fraud has been happening on an epic scale for decades.


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Originally Posted By: charles
In NC you tell the poll worker your name, she looks you up in a book, and allows you to vote. No ID required to prove who you claim you are. We also have a procedure for same day registration, and allow people to vote if they show up at a different precent!

Can you imagine this?


Was exactly like that in WI until very recently. Funny how we flipped from "Blue" to "Red" the SAME YEAR voter ID was instituted. Hmmmm...


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