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Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303097
08/16/18 08:16 AM
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can't,they won't buy PA fur unless i do the illegal thing and take it across the border into ny.buuutttt i have my ny lisc. this year for just such an emergency.that and our rat and mink close jan 6 or 7 and it kills me to have you guys trappin a mile from my house.having worked in the put up business for 30 yrs has always left me many options for my own fur.









Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: pcr2] #6303108
08/16/18 08:28 AM
08/16/18 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
can't,they won't buy PA fur unless i do the illegal thing and take it across the border into ny.buuutttt i have my ny lisc. this year for just such an emergency.that and our rat and mink close jan 6 or 7 and it kills me to have you guys trappin a mile from my house.having worked in the put up business for 30 yrs has always left me many options for my own fur.


You can get tags from the game commission office.

The reason I asked if you sold to them is because I have and have been happy with what I was paid. I will continue to sell to them despite all the negative I had heard ON HERE before they ever started buying in NY.

It's nice to have options...gets the local buyers attention.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303111
08/16/18 08:31 AM
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they have my interest and i am not tied to anyone now.hope to have fur in some of those ny sales the boys get frisky at too.been to dozens of peein matches over the years where the first words outta my mouth on the ride home was"boy do i wish i had my fur in that sale."









Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303121
08/16/18 08:40 AM
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pcr2 while we're talking about it seems archaic that PA. will only allow in state buyers. Seems political to me.. also no doubt holds the prices down.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303123
08/16/18 08:44 AM
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and brings about collusion between buyers. wink.i hate it.about like my 20 beaver limit.took them all from a 300 yd stretch for a good landowner with big problems last season and believe there might be that many back there already.









Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6303125
08/16/18 08:48 AM
08/16/18 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: whartonrattrappe
pcr2 while we're talking about it seems archaic that PA. will only allow in state buyers. Seems political to me.. also no doubt holds the prices down.

I don't know where you heard that.
But I know of one from Ohio that comes to Pa sales.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303138
08/16/18 09:04 AM
08/16/18 09:04 AM
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I started trapping 43 years ago this season. Just turned 12 at the time. Seen it all , ups, downs . So yes I have sold my share of coons. Coon hunted in the 70's when coon around here where scarce. Lived thru the 60 dollar grey fox and the 8 dollar reds. Haven't trapped every year during that time because of work and later a major surgery that took me down for couple years.

But all I know is the way I read the opening statement was there may be more interest in coon this up coming season. Didn't quote anyone a price and then not follow thru. From my experience folks better be glad there is even a market to sell too. Oh but you may be one of those guys that send it to NAFA and let it set for 3 years , then sell it for .50. In my opinion a 5 dollar coon that you get your money for on the spot is better than a .50 cent critter you get paid for 2-3 years later (if ever). The hope is that that 5 dollar coon may turn into a 12 dollar coon.
But guess we think different down here in Ky. Waiting on your .50 must mean more to you northern guys as long as you can say "I sell may fur to a fur auction"

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6303139
08/16/18 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: whartonrattrappe
pcr2 while we're talking about it seems archaic that PA. will only allow in state buyers. Seems political to me.. also no doubt holds the prices down.


Originally Posted By: pcr2
and brings about collusion between buyers. wink.i hate it.about like my 20 beaver limit.took them all from a 300 yd stretch for a good landowner with big problems last season and believe there might be that many back there already.
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PA Fur Buyer Collusion, And the Pennslyvania Game Commission's ban on Out of State Fur Buyers

is a Criminal Enterprise which should be prosecuted under the Federal RICO ACT!!! frown

w

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Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: wetdog] #6303142
08/16/18 09:06 AM
08/16/18 09:06 AM
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[quote=wetdogI don't know where you heard that.
But I know of one from Ohio that comes to Pa sales. [/quote]

I may be wrong about that, was told that buy my nephew in PA.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303144
08/16/18 09:13 AM
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This is good news-at least here. There are so many raccoon I catch them even when I REALLY try to avoid them.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: pcr2] #6303149
08/16/18 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: pcr2
and brings about collusion between buyers. wink.i hate it.about like my 20 beaver limit.took them all from a 300 yd stretch for a good landowner with big problems last season and believe there might be that many back there already.


To add to this point and make you NAFA guys mad in the process,. What do you think a PT sale DURING the auction really is at NAFA , FHA or any AUCTION.
It involves some sort of collusion or the buyers would bid and get the item when it is auctioned. Any of you guys ever been to a livestock auction? Pen hookers are ask to leave !!! Oh I'm sorry some of you educated northerners may not know what a pen hooker is. Its a person or company that buys auction items (cows in this case) that aren't sold on the auction floor. Would they bring more if the items were bid on? Maybe ..........

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6303153
08/16/18 09:20 AM
08/16/18 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: whartonrattrappe
[quote=wetdogI don't know where you heard that.
But I know of one from Ohio that comes to Pa sales.


I may be wrong about that, was told that buy my nephew in PA. [/quote]

Non-residents can buy a fur dealer permit just like a resident.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: jbyrd63] #6303156
08/16/18 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
Originally Posted By: pcr2
and brings about collusion between buyers. wink.i hate it.about like my 20 beaver limit.took them all from a 300 yd stretch for a good landowner with big problems last season and believe there might be that many back there already.


To add to this point and make you NAFA guys mad in the process,. What do you think a PT sale DURING the auction really is at NAFA , FHA or any AUCTION.
It involves some sort of collusion or the buyers would bid and get the item when it is auctioned. Any of you guys ever been to a livestock auction? Pen hookers are ask to leave !!! Oh I'm sorry some of you educated northerners may not know what a pen hooker is. Its a person or company that buys auction items (cows in this case) that aren't sold on the auction floor. Would they bring more if the items were bid on? Maybe ..........


They are not talking about NAFA, follow along.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: jbyrd63] #6303157
08/16/18 09:22 AM
08/16/18 09:22 AM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
I started trapping 43 years ago this season. Just turned 12 at the time. Seen it all , ups, downs . So yes I have sold my share of coons. Coon hunted in the 70's when coon around here where scarce. Lived thru the 60 dollar grey fox and the 8 dollar reds. Haven't trapped every year during that time because of work and later a major surgery that took me down for couple years.

But all I know is the way I read the opening statement was there may be more interest in coon this up coming season. Didn't quote anyone a price and then not follow thru. From my experience folks better be glad there is even a market to sell too. Oh but you may be one of those guys that send it to NAFA and let it set for 3 years , then sell it for .50. In my opinion a 5 dollar coon that you get your money for on the spot is better than a .50 cent critter you get paid for 2-3 years later (if ever). The hope is that that 5 dollar coon may turn into a 12 dollar coon.
But guess we think different down here in Ky. Waiting on your .50 must mean more to you northern guys as long as you can say "I sell may fur to a fur auction"


Coat coon and what I am talking about in a coon are quite different. I think the coon he is talking about are not coming from your area so I can see where 5.00 sounds good for you. It is an insult to me. I have sent 1000s of coon to the auctions and have overall done as good if not better than selling in the country. I have sold 1000s of coon to GFW and have also done very well. As a producer I try to market my fur to those who want to pay for them. If it is GFW I will sell to them, if it is the guys out East speculating, I sell to them and their buyers and if it is the Chinese wanting to make knock off parkas I will sell to them. Heck I will sell directly to Putin if he pays in green backs. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303161
08/16/18 09:28 AM
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Thanks LLL. I may be a grouchy old fart. LOL. Trapping coon is a part of who we are. This fur market has made a lot of us a little grouchy


Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: LLtrapper] #6303162
08/16/18 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: LLtrapper
Heck I will sell directly to Putin if he pays in green backs. LLL


So It wasn't the Russians that interfered in the 2016 International Wild Fur Auctions,

It Was The COON COMBINE !!! laugh

w


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Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303163
08/16/18 09:31 AM
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You'd be insulted alot in this neighborhood LLL.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303175
08/16/18 09:47 AM
08/16/18 09:47 AM
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Fake news.

I'll believe it when i see it.

Probably pay you 3 dollars intead of 2.


You only live once, so get over it!

Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303176
08/16/18 09:48 AM
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I understand what jbyrd63 is saying. Guys like GFW and the likes keep a lot of trappers trapping. The more outlet options we have for our fur the better off we all are.

We can all agree that coon quality and size range quite abit from area to area. No matter what area you live in, we all need a viable reason to trap. The critters still need managing.

Why does this always turn into whos got the biggest Pee Pee contest?

And yes, I poo pooed the original post as I've seen it in the past, but in hindsight it's nice to see hear something positive at this point. Hope it materializes is all, as we all have our doubts.

Re: GFW-Raccon market update [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6303180
08/16/18 09:54 AM
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It seems being optimistic is bad but being negative and even threating with offering zero help is good, gotta love that! LOL


Sent email to my buyer will see what he says he want's that determines more then other people talking about different coons in another areas of the Country.

Spot on Calvin!

Last edited by Law Dog; 08/16/18 09:55 AM.

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