Re: my sons iq
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That is great for him and impressive. He will keep you busy.
In general, it is a good idea to reinforce the behaviors that they enjoy that will lead to long-term success and not so much the innate ability. I agree with WF in many ways gifted kids are different and much more challenging.
IQ is always a function of age and the highest an individual will ever test is typical when they are first tested due to being young. It is a reference point in relation to others. If ability is associated with behaviors (enjoying reading, working hard at building with blocks) challenges are generally viewed through this lens. If ability is internalized as being innate sometimes challenges or concepts that are hard to grasp can be devastating to self-esteem. This is when many gifted kids begin to lose direction/focus.
The struggle with gifted kids is to keep them engaged and motivated but this definitely falls under the umbrella of good problems to have. Good luck and don't forget to have fun with it. i feel im letting him down,,its very frustrating.
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Re: my sons iq
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but his mom and I want him to be with kids his age. That is the stupidest thing ever!!! studies have shown that the emotional well being is by being with his age group....kids who are real smart suffer alot of probs in grades with older kids...he is super sensitive as kids with high intelligence tend to be. Best advise was from firewood willy and chas really.....going to the professionals now....pre school pros dont count
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Re: my sons iq
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Keep him envolved in math and music. They complement each other and are common with high IQ individuals. Add languages to that list. Don't have to play music or speak other languages their whole lives, if they don't want to. However it is critical to their development that they are exposed to them during their elementary school years. Children learn differently than adults learn. Languages and music are easier to learn at a young age. Expose him to many forms of music and he will begin to notice the similarities and differences. Teach him about the scale, different keys, rhythm, instruments, as the elements of music. Make sure to introduce him to classical music. Children who listen to classical music increase their intelligence level. Teach him the music’s title, when composed, why it was written, and the composer’s name, and then listen together, and afterwards discuss it. Buy him a simple basic instrument. Do the same with many forms of music - just not rap because that might erase his intelligence, ha. Do the same with many languages. Show him on a globe where people live who speak the languages. (Now he is learning geography too.). Show him the word for hello in many languages - it will expand his understanding. Go from there. Art is important. Show him the classics, teach him about the artists, different styles and mediums, and then show him paintings and ask him to tell you the style, artist, and medium used. Literature is critically important. Read to him from the classics. Again, teach him about the writer, location, when written, meaning, etc. discuss it so he learns and understands. Have him start creating his own literature. If he cannot write - now is the time to learn. Have him make up stories and record them with an inexpensive Olympus voice recorder. You will be opening his mind, expanding his horizons, and teaching him to learn. Have fun!
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Re: my sons iq
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Childhood intelligence measured by IQ is the most easily manipulated form of intelligence testing, your child may have a naturally high IQ, genetics has a lot to do with this but there are other factors such as diet and environment, education in early age also boost IQ but this is for the most part temporary. Your child likely will not have a 170 IQ into adulthood, he may be above average but not to the extent he is now compared to his peers. Remember he is a kid, do not start treating him like a child prodigy, let him play in the mud and kick a ball around, encourage him to get dirty and have fun with other kids please do not give him the white glove treatment and try and turn him into a grandmaster chess player.
My step brother was very high IQ, he was treated like a child prodigy, everything came easy to him but when he went to college everything quit coming easy, even though he was smart he still had to study but he had never learned any discipline so he did not put in the work, he became depressed and started using drugs, 20 years later he died of a drug overdose at 40 having never accomplished anything of meaning in his life. I am assuming your kid is a only child? Because of the value parents place one their only child I imagine you are already very protective of him, him being smart only heightens this as you foresee a life of safety and prosperity, it is going to be hard but you have to let him take risk, let him go off that jump with his bike or swim in the deep end of the pool, if you baby him to much he wont learn to withstand hard ship, this was my brothers downfall.
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Re: my sons iq
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Childhood intelligence measured by IQ is the most easily manipulated form of intelligence testing, your child may have a naturally high IQ, genetics has a lot to do with this but there are other factors such as diet and environment, education in early age also boost IQ but this is for the most part temporary. Your child likely will not have a 170 IQ into adulthood, he may be above average but not to the extent he is now compared to his peers. Remember he is a kid, do not start treating him like a child prodigy, let him play in the mud and kick a ball around, encourage him to get dirty and have fun with other kids please do not give him the white glove treatment and try and turn him into a grandmaster chess player.
My step brother was very high IQ, he was treated like a child prodigy, everything came easy to him but when he went to college everything quit coming easy, even though he was smart he still had to study but he had never learned any discipline so he did not put in the work, he became depressed and started using drugs, 20 years later he died of a drug overdose at 40 having never accomplished anything of meaning in his life. I am assuming your kid is a only child? Because of the value parents place one their only child I imagine you are already very protective of him, him being smart only heightens this as you foresee a life of safety and prosperity, it is going to be hard but you have to let him take risk, let him go off that jump with his bike or swim in the deep end of the pool, if you baby him to much he wont learn to withstand hard ship, this was my brothers downfall. not my only child....he isnt babied at all...he is in a tough jarhead family and law enforcement...he is a role model to the smaller kids....thats philipino and italian
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Re: my sons iq
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Warrior and Donner raise excellent points. Everything is important in raising a child. Socialization, confidence, work ethic, accountability, and endless other elements.
Warrior - a person’s spirit and personality is important. Kept mostly in check, a rebel spirit can be great. For example the rowdy rebel Americans in the middle 1700s.
Donner - You have my condolences for the loss of your step-brother. Gifted people, especially if gifted in a creative way, can be frustrated and self-destructive. It is even harder to lose them.
Something else that I believe is important is to teach him is a strong sense discipline and of time. Do the right thing at the right time. Be early, if you are not early you are late. Get up early in the morning. Go to bed at a sensible bedtime. A specific amount of time should be allocated to each task - teaches a child to not sit and languish over homework for hours. Budget a reasonable amount of time and accomplish the task in the time allotted. Begin a job on time and complete on time. Every project should have a series of goals - reach the goals and you complete the job. Everything he does should have a goal - even if personal satisfaction and enjoyment.
Of course, he should develop a sense of spontaneity and the ability to make adjustments on the fly. Ensure plenty of unstructured time for fun, experience, and adventure.
And then, there is the issue of healthy living. Teach him the importance of eating a balanced diet of healthy foods, avoiding unhealthy foods, getting regular exercise, and taking good care of himself with good medical care.
The experts do say that childhood IQ tests are not always precisely accurate, and are more of a guideline. However, the test results coincide with your observation. It might be prudent to periodically repeat the testing. Experts also say that a person can increase his IQ - for every year of college it increases 1 point, and for every year of professional school it increases 2 points.
All of these suggestions will involve a tremendous amount of dedication, effort, and focus. In all honesty, I would make these same suggestions to nearly any parent, with intensity adjusted for intelligence level and attention span.
I look forward to seeing your son as a great xxxxxx in the future! I sincerely wish you, your son, and your family all the best.
Last edited by Willy Firewood; 08/20/18 12:42 PM. Reason: Typo.
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Re: my sons iq
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Congrats. I always found it funny that Mensa wanted an annual membership for me to join. Relish the young years. Don't over think it. Sounds like he's got a good head on his shoulders which is half the battle. Proud papa!
A good friend always reverts to Coolidge in times like this: "Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race"
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Re: my sons iq
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not so much a proud papa.(although we feel proud and blessed)..just see it as it is. He is an all around great kid. Everybody loves him in 2 countries and everybody tells me what an immensly bright little boy. He is well disiplined and well rounded as a boy. He helps with chores....i.e. feeding chickens,cats,carrying groceries. His mom is smart and filipina. Filipino are generally mabait(affable,friendly etc. We are blessed,but its a chore.
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Re: my sons iq
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Congrats. I always found it funny that Mensa wanted an annual membership for me to join. Relish the young years. Don't over think it. Sounds like he's got a good head on his shoulders which is half the battle. Proud papa!
A good friend always reverts to Coolidge in times like this: "Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race" his preschool program is mensa but he is ahead of it.
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Re: my sons iq
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You have got a lot of good advise IMO here. After saying that, I would consult in a professional in this field and see what they have to say. There maybe some something these trappers here missed. LOL Keep us updated.
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