No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Flat Sets #6309426
08/24/18 11:53 AM
08/24/18 11:53 AM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 229
Minnesota
S
shortliner16 Offline OP
trapper
shortliner16  Offline OP
trapper
S

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 229
Minnesota
Alright, I know its archived but I'm looking for some more tips and set pictures of flat sets. I feel I'm missing something on that as my success is not what I expect it to be. Thanks


"If I could find a way to bottle my dog's farts, I could call coyotes across state lines." -USMC47
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309510
08/24/18 03:49 PM
08/24/18 03:49 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
M
Michigan Trappin Offline
trapper
Michigan Trappin  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
Master the Compass set

1. Bed trap solid
2. Use only gland and curiosity lures
3. Blend set so well you can't see it ( I put some type of markers to locate if I don't connect)
4. Use NO BACKING

My preferred locations are the middle of two tracks when trapping woods
And 20-30 yards out in to harvested ag fields
And edges of hay/alfalfa fields

From pups to alphas, and very seldom non-targets in the sets out in harvested ag fields


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309514
08/24/18 03:57 PM
08/24/18 03:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,593
Central, SD
Law Dog Offline
trapper
Law Dog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,593
Central, SD
I don't mind a little backing here a flat rock a tuff of grass or a dirt shelf next to a cattle trail works for me. Like MI trapper said they are tough to find especially after a rain or snow they blend in so well. LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309519
08/24/18 04:22 PM
08/24/18 04:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 977
Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer Offline
trapper
Larry Baer  Offline
trapper

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 977
Peoria County Illinois



Coyotes running along the edge of this field. tall stalks and weeds left of the picture. This row looked fairly open. You can tell where i set this trap but it snowed and then



In the first picture I'm standing down in the field lane as it goes toward a ford over a creek. In the second picture I'm standing up in the field facing the ford. The two pictures above are on a corner

The below picture is a little further down the field along a water way the coyotes were using



The picture below is the same field after the snow melted and the creek came up. Different location but about 1/4 mile away on the outside of a long curve along the creek. The water came up but you can still see the corn rows. Coyotes were running down the rows.




All of these sets were set and operating for about 30 days on the same travel route that is about a mile long where I can set traps and where the same coyotes were traveling. There were some travelers but there was a pack of 6. I only got four of them. I saw tracks all summer and fall running along this field along the creek. It's a great spot. They like to hug the creek bank then follow the farm lane across the ford. Anywhere along here that I can make some kind of flat set produces a coyote. I use trash piles, cornstalks, a little lure on a prominent stalk or piece of drift wood. This creek has a lot of fine sand in it that dries out and blows in drifts when it is very cold. I typically have to chisel a trap bed out but then bedding it is a breeze- literally - the wind blows the sand so much that I cannot tell where the set is.
Hope this helps

Just bed a trap and blend it in where you see a coyote track and put some good lure about a foot upwind of it. Put the lure on something like a fist sized rock or limb and stake it down so they can't steel it.




Last edited by Larry Baer; 08/24/18 04:42 PM.
Re: Flat Sets [Re: Law Dog] #6309552
08/24/18 05:17 PM
08/24/18 05:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,339
In the south central Pa Mounta...
grayfox54 Offline
trapper
grayfox54  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,339
In the south central Pa Mounta...
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
I don't mind a little backing here a flat rock a tuff of grass or a dirt shelf next to a cattle trail works for me. Like MI trapper said they are tough to find especially after a rain or snow they blend in so well. LOL


When I canít find a set in snow I use a metal detector


I donít trap because I want to
I trap because I have to
Re: Flat Sets [Re: Michigan Trappin] #6309558
08/24/18 05:23 PM
08/24/18 05:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,075
Central NC
T
traprjohn Offline
trapper
traprjohn  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 8,075
Central NC
Originally Posted By: Michigan Trappin
Master the Compass set



and the Triple Pebble set


www.sevenoakstrappingsupplies.com
The 10 Commandments are not suggestions.
Buy a soldiers meal EVERY chance you can.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: grayfox54] #6309637
08/24/18 07:28 PM
08/24/18 07:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,593
Central, SD
Law Dog Offline
trapper
Law Dog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 16,593
Central, SD
Originally Posted By: grayfox54
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
I don't mind a little backing here a flat rock a tuff of grass or a dirt shelf next to a cattle trail works for me. Like MI trapper said they are tough to find especially after a rain or snow they blend in so well. LOL


When I canít find a set in snow I use a metal detector


2X when they have been under a snow drift for a while it's often the only way!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309649
08/24/18 07:40 PM
08/24/18 07:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 890
NC
M
mrob Offline
trapper
mrob  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 890
NC
Use a backing. It can be a rock, tuft of grass, chunk of wood, or anything else that will help make the animal work from the side your trap is on. Use some gland or curiosity lure and good urine. I canít understand why someone would not use backing at a flat set.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309650
08/24/18 07:43 PM
08/24/18 07:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,443
Idaho Falls, ID
F
Furvor Offline
trapper
Furvor  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,443
Idaho Falls, ID
Quote:
When I canít find a set in snow I use a metal detector


That works but takes time. First, get very close with a GPS, a GPS model that is quick for marking and finding waypoints. Some models have too many features to be practical for trapping.


Economics 101: Wealth has to be earned. Legislation can transfer it from one person to another but cannot generate it.
Re: Flat Sets [Re: mrob] #6309757
08/24/18 10:01 PM
08/24/18 10:01 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
M
Michigan Trappin Offline
trapper
Michigan Trappin  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
Originally Posted By: mrob
......... I canít understand why someone would not use backing at a flat set.


Because of results like these .......











And there are many more..........

ZERO BACKING


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309809
08/24/18 11:20 PM
08/24/18 11:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,287
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline
trapper
AJE  Offline
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,287
WI - Wisconsin
Impressive Mi Trappin. Wondering how you coax them out into open fields like that in a manner that they find your set consistently enough to keep making those kind of open sets.


WTA Member
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309818
08/24/18 11:29 PM
08/24/18 11:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,405
Middle of Delaware
DelawareRob Online happy
trapper
DelawareRob  Online Happy
trapper

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,405
Middle of Delaware
Do you have pictures of flat sets before a catch?

Nice catches by the way.


http://www.delawaretrappersinc.com/

Mentor someone.

Semper Paratus.
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309841
08/24/18 11:56 PM
08/24/18 11:56 PM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,003
Michigan
D
Ditchdiver Offline
trapper
Ditchdiver  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 2,003
Michigan


The first is a sort of "walk through" flat set. The second is a flat set with the rock as a backing. That second one took 5 yotes and 1 red fox last season.
MROB- the compass set needs no backing. The animal steps all around, due to 4 lure holes with the trap in the center.


When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309861
08/25/18 02:33 AM
08/25/18 02:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 890
NC
M
mrob Offline
trapper
mrob  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 890
NC
Use what you have confidence in but Iím not going to be swayed by a few random catch pictures. It seems like a set preferred by beginners that havenít figured out trap placement.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309917
08/25/18 07:10 AM
08/25/18 07:10 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,237
Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91 Offline
trapper
Wolfdog91  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,237
Amite county Mississippi


Trappermans Resident Black Guy
The Black Redneck! 20yrs
MS National Guardsmen
I Like Moddin Traps 'N Trapping Possums
Go Ordnance!!!!
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309941
08/25/18 08:17 AM
08/25/18 08:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,069
williamsburg ks
D
danny clifton Offline
trapper
danny clifton  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,069
williamsburg ks
I like flat sets when its a rain pattern going on. sometimes a hole will get one to walk 3 feet and have a sniff when the wind is blowing the wrong way and I prefer it if weather cooperates. some beaver sac oil smeared on a corn stubble will give off odor after 5 inchs of rain. coyotes will put their nose right on the smear. sometimes they will pee after. but they don't walk all over the place like with a hole and a good prepared bait.


Ban private vehicles now. They are killing too much wildlife and too many children.
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6309947
08/25/18 08:30 AM
08/25/18 08:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,133
Arkansas
J
J Staton Offline
trapper
J Staton  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 3,133
Arkansas
Never had any luck with the compass set. Coon were my only catch. Probably doing something wrong because I always set on sign.
A flat set with a small backing has always worked well for me.

Re: Flat Sets [Re: AJE] #6310012
08/25/18 10:29 AM
08/25/18 10:29 AM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
M
Michigan Trappin Offline
trapper
Michigan Trappin  Offline
trapper
M

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 4,611
Southwest Michigan
Originally Posted By: AJE
Impressive Mi Trappin. Wondering how you coax them out into open fields like that in a manner that they find your set consistently enough to keep making those kind of open sets.



Give them something interesting to smell......

I've caught 2nd coyotes in the remakes often and a third a few times

Had a few repeats on fox as well, but we don't gave many fox here,

I like when I'm running them in big harvest ag fields as I can drive into the fiejd and just look for hoping yotes, they never seem to lay down like they do on the edge if a field when they see my truck.


I've had more than a few guys that couldn't connect on their first yote using all the traditional sets try this and get results. Was happy to introduce it to a bunch of trappers at the michigan convention that have been trying for a couple of years I'm eager to hear back from them this fall


MROB not saying you need to use it, but why discourage others from using something that works. One more set that puts more fur in the shed is a good thing


Every day is a gift from GOD, don't waste it!!

If they have plenty of food, give them something interesting to smell
Re: Flat Sets [Re: shortliner16] #6310109
08/25/18 01:23 PM
08/25/18 01:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 598
West Cent IL
I
illinideer Offline
trapper
illinideer  Offline
trapper
I

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 598
West Cent IL
Here are a couple of mine

The turnip is my low backing I punch a small hole under the leaf for lure

This one I had a miss, froze trap steped right on the pan. The larger dark spot was just a tuff of weeds The trap is off to the right.

This was a remake from a coon. Started out with the trap off of a clump of grass. Made a copy of a Charles Dobbin set. Got lure under the points of duff.

And caught this one a couple of day later
I don't have any pics of Mich Trapping compass set But I use it and have had success with it
Justin




Coyote 9
Mink 1
RedFox 2
Coons 33
Bobcat 5 Released
Grinners All of them
USN AE2 VF-31 Tomcatters
Retired SMSGT IL ANG 183 Fighter Wing
Coyote U Class #4
Re: Flat Sets [Re: Law Dog] #6310119
08/25/18 01:40 PM
08/25/18 01:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,380
N.W. Iowa
T
Tactical.20 Offline
trapper
Tactical.20  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 14,380
N.W. Iowa
Originally Posted By: Law Dog
I don't mind a little backing here a flat rock a tuff of grass or a dirt shelf next to a cattle trail works for me. Like MI trapper said they are tough to find especially after a rain or snow they blend in so well. LOL

I agree, I use small backing with or without a foot guide trench.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread