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Re: drying fur?
[Re: TONY.F]
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09/26/18 05:44 PM
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lol yes I know the ears are useless in the fur industry! I'm basing my knowledge from hear say its dang tough to know what to and what not to believe when it comes to trapping rules! I'll start turning my ears this season and see for myself I guess. The real truth will be in the check. My country buyer told me the effort on turning ears isn't worth any $$ only self satisfaction. Again do I call B.S or take it as truth? He gives fur handling demos at conventions so I like to believe hes telling the truth but what if its a ploy to buy them cheaper. Myth busters need to become trappers! In all aspects. Being the best is not my intention but I know I don't want to be the worst either. Proficient and consistent are my goals! Im at consistent the other is what needs tweeking. This forum has helped me a lot everyones points and views keeps a humble guy thinking If you want a good fur handling video that goes over every furbearer, look for the Wisconsin Trapper’s fur handling video. The cover is all blue. I’m not sure if they sell it anymore, but you might be able to find somebody that will sell you one.
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Re: drying fur?
[Re: TONY.F]
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09/27/18 08:07 AM
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TONY.F, I don't put up a lot of fur and I don't trap for the check, I do it for the enjoyment and memories. My fur handling is done for the respect for the animal, personal satisfaction and pride. I tried turning the ears and was surprised how easy it is to accomplish. I personally think the ears turned make a much better presentation... Not sure if you have seen this video, it is very helpful and simplifies the whole process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kac3DxKcr_Q
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Re: drying fur?
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09/27/18 11:40 AM
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same here I didn't get back into trapping for the money if was only about the money id of got a job! I love every thing outdoors related, and trapping was my recovery exercise. But it is the one outdoors activety that gives a little back. I respect the animals enough to try my best. I like the look of natural pointy ears. I was fishing to see if it was something im doing wrong, or if its just the nature of the beast im battling
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Re: drying fur?
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09/27/18 04:50 PM
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I've put up a lot of coyotes mine and others. And I have never had any slippage In the head area. And I don't do anything with the ears. Other then pin them back when there drying.
If I were going to sell to the taxidermy market I'd remove the cartilage.
The first coyote I caught I sent it In to have It tanned. I didn't say I wanted It taxidermy tanned. It came back minus the nose and ears. I asked them and they said they did that with all coyotes and fox when they went Into the tanning process.
Get them off the boards as soon as possible and open them up and you won't have any problems.
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Re: drying fur?
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09/27/18 09:03 PM
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that's my new plan for this season! A week on the board after its fur out then just hang on fur hangers till shipping date. Beav have you ever tried Tom Krauses way? with the part board part wire adjustable boards ? He use them on cats, but I believe they would do wonders on any fur out fur!
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Re: drying fur?
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09/27/18 11:45 PM
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Never tried that method.
When I do coyotes I flesh them down like I do coon. And If you do that you should be able to take the hide off In 2 days. When you first board that coyote after you turn It fur out make sure you place a wedge In from the mouth and one In from the tail end. And use a decent sized wedge.
Sticking In a wedge from the tail end makes no sense at all. What good does the skinny end do up In the head area. In fact It's a waste of time doing It like that on any animal. But 2 wedges will get you some air flow.
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Re: drying fur?
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09/28/18 11:34 AM
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I do the two wedge boards on skunks and coons well every thing that gets a solid board gets two wedges. my yotes all go on adjustable boards. the two wedges makes them a sinch to remove from the board and you get a better presentation in the head area .It does seam to pull out the slack that accumulates in the neck & throat area. After I learned that trick ive never lost another fox hide trying to remove it from a board
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Re: drying fur?
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09/30/18 11:00 PM
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thanks guys every ones experties help out tons of guys
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Re: drying fur?
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10/01/18 09:49 AM
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A parting shot.
I see no reason for leaving hides on boards or wire for weeks at a time. Do a good job on the fleshing beam and In 2 or 3 days you can remove fur out critters from the forms.
And every time I hear someone say they are leaving their rats on the forms for weeks at time I just shudder same with mink skins. The longer a rat hide dries the thinner the leather gets. And you will get down graded for those dry crinkly sounding skins. 2 days at the most for rats. You want to pack those greasy hides away In boxes so they stay hydrated.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/01/18 06:07 PM
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Ya but with the hide off the board your chances are better.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/01/18 07:13 PM
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Taking a hide off the board too soon is worse than leaving it on too long.It will wrinkle and you get excessive shrinkage,thus losing money on size.
Take it off at the "right" time-when it is dry.Worst thing guys do is dry fur at too warm a temp.50f with low humidity is ideal.It takes a bit longer to dry but the skin will remain leathery and flexable,too warm and fast drying leaves a skin papery or boardy,stiff and prone to damage from cracking.
Fur dried with excessive heat like behind a wood stove etc will actually be what the trade calls grease burnt-basically untannable.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/01/18 09:17 PM
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Taking a hide off the board too soon is worse than leaving it on too long.It will wrinkle and you get excessive shrinkage,thus losing money on size.
Take it off at the "right" time-when it is dry. I agree with "Boco"'
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/01/18 11:55 PM
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My conditions allow me to take a fur out coyote hide off the board In 2 days. I get NO wrinkling and no loss of size.
And once I turn that hide fur out I only put In a few push pins just to keep It centered and keep the tail and the ears In place. So far I have never had the hide shrink and pull out the pins.
I think the idea of a hide shrinking to where your going to lose a grade Is a little far fetched. In fact I'm betting a 1" one way or the other on a coyote fox or cat Isn't even considered In the grading process. IT's all about color and fur quality.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/02/18 12:03 AM
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The auction houses get pelts that look like wrinkled up socks,that were taken off the boards too soon,or not dried on a board at all.I bet the shipper wonders why his xxl mink graded xsm.
Last edited by Boco; 10/02/18 12:04 AM.
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Re: drying fur?
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10/02/18 01:56 AM
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thanks boco now you got my mind bending the other direction! I fire up my wood stove to remove humidity not so much for the heat. my shed stays around 60 -40 I try to keep it above freezing cause I store my fmj and paint dip in there freezing will ruin them.
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