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If I put donuts and dog food in my yard,should I be mad at the bears that invade my yard?
If I do the same ( jobs, free healthcare, free education, free housing, free citizenship for children, etc) for foreigners, should I be mad at the foreigners?
At least that bomber the other day was mad at the right people.
Last edited by Dirt; 10/27/1804:16 PM.
Who is John Galt?
Re: Marines at The Border
[Re: DuxDawg]
#6358182 10/27/1812:15 PM10/27/1812:15 PM
Aside from mode of travel , what separates these folks from those who fled from the Great Potato Famine in Ireland ?
Values. The Irish largely were like the Americans of that day in morals, values, ethics, language, culture, work ethic, etc, etc.
These invaders are the *exact opposite* of ordinary Americans these days. They seek to destroy what we and all of our ancestors fought, bled, suffered and died to build. They are heaping excrement upon their graves and our children's future.
That's not what great grandaddy DuxDawg said:
"[T]hey steal, they are cruel and bloody, full of revenge, and delighting in deadly execution, licentious, swearers and blasphemers, common ravishers of women, and murderers of children.”
So duxdawg, you support lighting unarmed people on fire, shooting them and chopping their heads off? Would you be willing to light the match, or pull the trigger or rope? If not, then what are you suggesting we do with them? Never once have a suggested that we let them all in, only the ones with a valid asylum claim. Around 22% of asylum seekers have a legitimate claim, the rest are sent back. Most don't know that figure. I'd assume that the number is even lower in this group. I am advocating, however, that we be civil and act like decent human beings, not savages.
22% of the ones who show up for their court date.
22% of 1 %. the rest are running free ILLEGALLY.
Re: Marines at The Border
[Re: DuxDawg]
#6358208 10/27/1801:16 PM10/27/1801:16 PM
Aside from mode of travel , what separates these folks from those who fled from the Great Potato Famine in Ireland ?
Values. The Irish largely were like the Americans of that day in morals, values, ethics, language, culture, work ethic, etc, etc.
These invaders are the *exact opposite* of ordinary Americans these days. They seek to destroy what we and all of our ancestors fought, bled, suffered and died to build. They are heaping excrement upon their graves and our children's future.
You need to read history more, the Irish were reviled, hated and treated as bad or worse than slaves.
The Italians were hated, the Germans were hated, the Chinese and the list goes on.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Marines at The Border
[Re: Dirt]
#6358210 10/27/1801:17 PM10/27/1801:17 PM
If I put donuts and dogfood in my yard should I be mad the bears that invade my yard?
If I do the same ( jobs, free healthcare, free education, free housing, free citizenship for children, etc) for foreigners should I be mad at the foreigners?
At least that bomber the other day was mad at the right people.
Exactly, immigration isn't the problem, it's the welfare state.
Exactly, immigration isn't the problem, it's the welfare state.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Our troops at the border are going to be in a no win situation. They will be heavily scrutinized by a US and world media that despises them, so they won't likely be permitted to use an adequate level of force to protect themselves and our country. There is estimated to be over 10,000 people in the horde approaching our border. Most are young, adult men. 800 US soldiers are being sent to meet them at our border. Without using severe force, there is no way for people to control roughly 13 times their number. The horde is saying they will fight through and has already fought their way through other attempts to stop them.
We need a change in law about who and how people can enter our country and their rights and what they receive once they enter. We are no longer a largely unsettled wilderness. Much of the entire world's population would emigrate here, if they could. Resources are limited. It is time to limit most immigration to people who are a benefit to the current American population as a whole. If we don't, our standard of living will devolve until we are as poor as the third world countries' whose population is invading us.
The approaching horde needs to be treated very poorly, so that these invasions stop. There will be videos and photos, flooding the news media, of big brown eyed, little Hispanic children, suffering whatever force our troops use to stop the horde. We need to harden our hearts to these images, or our own future generations will suffer worse.
You need to read history more, the Irish were reviled, hated and treated as bad or worse than slaves. The Italians were hated, the Germans were hated, the Chinese and the list goes on.
What nonsense! Nowhere did I assert that any people groups were loved. All I referred to was values. Not likeability. Never even came up, other than in your fevered imagination.
You obviously need to take some reading comprehension classes Steven 49er. 'Cause I never said what you think I said.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
Re: Marines at The Border
[Re: Dirt]
#6359033 10/28/1812:42 PM10/28/1812:42 PM
"[T]hey steal, they are cruel and bloody, full of revenge, and delighting in deadly execution, licentious, swearers and blasphemers, common ravishers of women, and murderers of children.”
Ever heard of caricature? That bit is the SNL skit of its day.
When resources are scarce, everyone is the enemy. As pressures eased, so did the vilification.
1) Prosperity solves most human problems. 2) America is the greatest prosperity engine ever devised.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
You need to read history more, the Irish were reviled, hated and treated as bad or worse than slaves. The Italians were hated, the Germans were hated, the Chinese and the list goes on.
What nonsense! Nowhere did I assert that any people groups were loved. All I referred to was values. Not likeability. Never even came up, other than in your fevered imagination.
You obviously need to take some reading comprehension classes Steven 49er. 'Cause I never said what you think I said.
Why do you think those groups were so hated and reviled? Because their values and cultures were different.
The difference between today vs then is the welfare state. The welfare state needs to be eliminated
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"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
"With the ongoing debate about Trump’s immigration ban in mind, it’s worth revisiting Ayn Rand’s thoughts on immigration. Rand never discussed this topic at length, but in the Q&A following her 1973 Ford Hall Forum address, she was asked: “What is your attitude toward immigration? Doesn’t open immigration have a negative effect on a country’s standard of living?” This is her answer:
You don’t know my conception of self-interest. No one has the right to pursue his self-interest by law or by force, which is what you’re suggesting. You want to forbid immigration on the grounds that it lowers your standard of living — which isn’t true, though if it were true, you’d still have no right to close the borders. You’re not entitled to any “self-interest” that injures others, especially when you can’t prove that open immigration affects your self-interest. You can’t claim that anything others may do — for example, simply through competition — is against your self-interest. But above all, aren’t you dropping a personal context? How could I advocate restricting immigration when I wouldn’t be alive today if our borders had been closed? (Ayn Rand Answers: The Best of Her Q&A, edited by Robert Mayhew, p. 25.)"
I guess one would have to ask those that have witnessed a dramatic change in their communities and cities whether immigration has had an affect on their self-interest. Many areas have seen a large influx of foreign migration and with it an increase in gang and drug trafficking as well as human trafficking. This is not a myth,but a factual observation.
No,.not just Somalians,although you are correct in your statement.Sudanese as well. Migration from south of the border,Mexico, but more recent years central american influx increasing. My point being many communities change and not in the self interests of it's native population. That can't be denied. It doesn't help when Government emboldens those who wish to enter this country illegally, whether it is Reagans amnesty program or Trumps suggestion of amnesty for DACA.
