Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: Nodak63]
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11/11/18 02:06 PM
11/11/18 02:06 PM
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danny clifton
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"Grumpy Old Man"
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Requiring written permission is another stupid feel good law. How does a warden know if the note you have was written by your mom er I mean the landowner or not? How does the warden access the property your on without written permission?
Anybody willing to trespass property owned by someone who doesn't live on it, or have any way to check on it, will be happy to write their own note. Even with a note the only way for L.E. to check for permission is to contact the landowner. I am confident it is rare for a warden to contact the landowner. Absent other violations, it is more likely the land owner will call L.E. if there is a problem.
I am amazed at some of the stupid ideas that have made it through various legislatures.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: Nodak63]
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11/11/18 04:33 PM
11/11/18 04:33 PM
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Posts: 10,406 Northeast Oklahoma
Mike in A-town
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Oklahoma regs state...
"No person may trap on the inhabited land of another without first obtaining from the owner or occupant thereof a written permit to do so."
I've always had questions about that statement. It states "inhabited" land. So if it is an uninhabited piece of land owned by someone who lives elsewhere, it would seem that verbal permission via a telephone call would suffice. Yes?
I always get written permission to cover my backside. But it seems that I don't necessarily have to if the owner resides an inconvenient distance from the land I wish to trap.
Of course if you are hunting, verbal permission is sufficient. Funny how that works.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: Nodak63]
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11/12/18 05:51 PM
11/12/18 05:51 PM
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QuietButDeadly
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NC, Orange Co.
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Written permission to trap private land in NC.
Life Member: NCTA, VTA, NTA, TTFHA, MFTI Member: FTA NRA NWTF
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Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: danny clifton]
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11/12/18 06:58 PM
11/12/18 06:58 PM
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TDHP
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Requiring written permission is another stupid feel good law. How does a warden know if the note you have was written by your mom er I mean the landowner or not? How does the warden access the property your on without written permission?
Anybody willing to trespass property owned by someone who doesn't live on it, or have any way to check on it, will be happy to write their own note. Even with a note the only way for L.E. to check for permission is to contact the landowner. I am confident it is rare for a warden to contact the landowner. In most cases LEO's /EPO's just have dispatch locate numbers if applicable. Don't know why someone wouldn't get a contact # for the "just in case" you get checked or someone complains. Here all it takes is someone to call on a hunter or trapper in the woods and that person will be checked out. If they check out and have permission to be there, no issue, if not depending on the ofc'r they are given a warning or cited for trespassing. Seen some folks who believe it isn't a big deal to be on property that they don't own, zero tolerance. Once advised of private property and or If the owner trespasses them and they are seen on the property again they are subject to arrest for the violation no questions asked. It's not rare for an officer to do their job here and make contact to see if an individual is legally on property if called out for a complaint. States may vary but our EPO's have full police powers on top of environmental law enforcement.
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Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: Nodak63]
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11/12/18 07:00 PM
11/12/18 07:00 PM
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Posts: 152 Northern Illinois
Beavertrapper24
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You only need verbal permission to trap, hunt, and fish in Illinois however with the increase of people outdoors and nosey neighbors I take the extra step to try and get permission in writing. I just explain to the land owner I only need verbal permission however if I'm stopped by an officer or neighbor they will most likely call to confirm and if I have it in writing that should be enough to satisfy any inquiring minds and they won't have to be bothered again.
"There is value in any experience that exercises those ethical restraints collectively called sportsmanship."- Aldo Leopold
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Re: Needing written permission to trap?
[Re: Beavertrapper24]
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11/12/18 08:20 PM
11/12/18 08:20 PM
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Trap_Hunt_Fish
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Trap_Hunt_Fish
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Not required in wi. But it seems to me it may be required in some states in order to prevent legal confusion or transfer liabilty
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