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FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK #6373774
11/14/18 09:06 PM
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Go take a look at Gary rock on coon in the fur truck.

https://www.facebook.com/GFWCO/videos/10211462031419590/

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6373788
11/14/18 09:28 PM
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Neat video


Will my toes ever warm up?

I'm Gonna die with my boots on.

Tim Henry.





Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6373830
11/14/18 10:06 PM
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Didn’t watch it all but what I saw was pretty interesting. Good info.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: madcotrappwr] #6373884
11/14/18 11:17 PM
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nothing has changed buyers do not want your early blue coons , here in Missouri your season starts tomorrow to early in my book to trap anything .


50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6373893
11/14/18 11:28 PM
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Thanks for posting.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6373924
11/15/18 12:19 AM
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Awesome

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6373941
11/15/18 12:43 AM
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I found it interesting. I've been to a gfw stop at Moberly, Mo a couple years ago, just to watch. It's a fast process. Need to know what you got and present it well. Same as selling anything else you place a value in. Better goods bring better prices. I'd say that video presented a fair representation of the current market. I'm gonna focus on prime fur myself. Be after Thanksgiving before I start. Considering December 1st. Just no market for the small blue skinned critters. Just gonna trap harder when I start.


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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374240
11/15/18 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GFW - GROENEWOLD
Go take a look at Gary rock on coon in the fur truck.

https://www.facebook.com/GFWCO/videos/10211462031419590/



Could you (PLEASE) post this on some other Internet medium so those of us that don't use facebook can view it ?

Thanks.

walleyed

Last edited by walleyed; 11/15/18 01:33 PM.

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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374278
11/15/18 02:33 PM
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You don't need Facebook in order to view it. I don't think have one and I could watch the video. Not really missing anything. IMO

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374296
11/15/18 03:07 PM
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Thought this was great. Very cool set up.

Who fleshes all those green coon? Those were nice looking coon.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374397
11/15/18 05:19 PM
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Good video and great information. Thanks for posting.



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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374407
11/15/18 05:31 PM
11/15/18 05:31 PM
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very nice video, gives you good insight on what Groney is doing and what he's looking for!
Pretty much the same I saw live in Watertown last weekend. He's a good guy and treats you fairly.

question to GWF, you told me to skin my coons I sold in the round. Do you prefer them green or put up and dried?

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374813
11/16/18 06:49 AM
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That's always been my experience, The best part about this business model is - if you believe you have a better command on market trends or you're a better fur grader- don't sell and leave with your fur. I hear grumbling but rarely have I seen someone pick-up their marbles and leave.

Last edited by Eagleye; 11/16/18 07:39 AM.
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374909
11/16/18 09:22 AM
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Thanks for the video. It was very interesting to watch.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6374911
11/16/18 09:24 AM
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I keep getting a "you must log in to continue" message from FB. No way I'm joining. Too bad GFW cant just put it on YouTube or link to an internet host through their webpage.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375020
11/16/18 10:55 AM
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Always 1 @ $1 lol.....neat video though I watched the whole thing and don't have Facebook


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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375062
11/16/18 11:34 AM
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Just watched the first transaction, maybe more tonight. The standard 3 piles made it to 4 for the first guy, eh? I'm not skinning coon for a $2.40 average. I'll take my chances at auction with Veterans Day+ se SD coon...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375867
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I've watched more of the video. It is sort of addicting. I've watched up through the first (only?) transaction of finished coon and it appears to me that the seller was getting between $3-5 more for his finishing work then just selling green. I'm assuming his single (this guy sold 30 coon) $20 hide would have been in the $15 green pile, his 3 $15 finished in the $10 green pile, 12 $9 coon in the $5 green, and his 7 $5 finished in the $2 green group. The 7 $2-1 would have been in the dollar or "no value" pile.

Comparing in my head his lot of finished bandits to my typical lots, I hardly ever have slate or blue coon so that would help bump my average if I sold to GFW and I think my overall handling is better- less grease on the inspection window and less "damage" holes. This guy's average for his finished coon was $7.33 and he got his money that day and didn't pay any commission or membership fees. Still, even in my worse years with NAFA since the 2nd auction of 2013, my annual averages were 17-21% higher than this lot but maybe those years selling to GFW would have been money ahead. I wish I caught more so I could spread my lots around and test multiple venues. Maybe some day...


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Genesis 1:26
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375883
11/17/18 01:56 PM
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Can't help but wonder... why run fur routes in November when the fur isn't prime?

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: eastwood44mag] #6375892
11/17/18 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eastwood44mag
Can't help but wonder... why run fur routes in November when the fur isn't prime?



Great observation!


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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375894
11/17/18 02:32 PM
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I saw all I needed to know.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375932
11/17/18 03:57 PM
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Interesting comment at about -27:30 in the video.

If a seller isn't satisfied with the offers the truck guy is giving, a seller would have to "start at the bottom and worth his way back up in value" to take the fur back. Hmmmm...that sounds a little odd. So, if I'm not satisfied with the offer on say my top hides but I'm ok with offers on the middle and lower piles, I'd have to nix the whole deal...? That doesn't sound overly flexible. I guess GWF is doing a guy a favor by taking those sub- $5 coons but they get your good stuff for providing this "service". Just like taking those grinners and other "no value" furs off your hands for you instead of you having to throw them away when you get home. Funny how that works.

Ok, lunch is over and I have coons that need fleshing in the garage.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375951
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I like how 3x Co on and up are the interest but how many green 2x Co on were bought for pennies that would make 3x when boarded.

Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6375983
11/17/18 05:58 PM
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Yeah, I haven't heard any of the sellers state what their lots consist of, like, "here are my 3x" etc or push back on any of the guy's calls. I wonder how many of these green coon sellers even know the size length differences except, "big, medium, and small"...? I guess if a person doesn't put them up, you don't really worry much about the difference between 29 and 31 inches.


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Genesis 1:26
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6376018
11/17/18 06:54 PM
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Nice video. I for one would like to see more video's like this,it tells the trapper a lot.. If you are worried about his grade/price you can always process and ship them, it's that simple.


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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6376033
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f you are worried about his grade/price you can always process and ship them, it's that simple.


And I do.

My comments on this thread were trying to understand their processes more and understand why so many people sell to them. I get paid in my real life to ask questions so that's what I do. Now I understand their processes a bit more than before watching the video. I guess if people are happy with those averages on the first part of the season or their entire season and for the convenience the route truck provides, more power to ya.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6376044
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We got to see the process for what it is. As long as the buyer and seller are satisfied, that's all that matters. I personally could watch hours of buying and sorting and grading fur. I find it very interesting.


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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #6376065
11/17/18 07:58 PM
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A 29.5 inch coon at GFW is a XL. Been that way forever. Everywhere else is a double. LLL


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