Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: madcotrappwr]
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11/14/18 11:17 PM
11/14/18 11:17 PM
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nothing has changed buyers do not want your early blue coons , here in Missouri your season starts tomorrow to early in my book to trap anything .
50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6373893
11/14/18 11:28 PM
11/14/18 11:28 PM
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6373941
11/15/18 12:43 AM
11/15/18 12:43 AM
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I found it interesting. I've been to a gfw stop at Moberly, Mo a couple years ago, just to watch. It's a fast process. Need to know what you got and present it well. Same as selling anything else you place a value in. Better goods bring better prices. I'd say that video presented a fair representation of the current market. I'm gonna focus on prime fur myself. Be after Thanksgiving before I start. Considering December 1st. Just no market for the small blue skinned critters. Just gonna trap harder when I start.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6374240
11/15/18 01:25 PM
11/15/18 01:25 PM
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Posts: 8,564 Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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Could you (PLEASE) post this on some other Internet medium so those of us that don't use facebook can view it ? Thanks. walleyed
Last edited by walleyed; 11/15/18 01:33 PM.
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYS Trappers Association Jefferson Co. Fur Harvesters
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6374813
11/16/18 06:49 AM
11/16/18 06:49 AM
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Traps R Us, That's always been my experience, The best part about this business model is - if you believe you have a better command on market trends or you're a better fur grader- don't sell and leave with your fur. I hear grumbling but rarely have I seen someone pick-up their marbles and leave.
Last edited by Eagleye; 11/16/18 07:39 AM.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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11/16/18 10:55 AM
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Always 1 @ $1 lol.....neat video though I watched the whole thing and don't have Facebook
TC
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6375062
11/16/18 11:34 AM
11/16/18 11:34 AM
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Just watched the first transaction, maybe more tonight. The standard 3 piles made it to 4 for the first guy, eh? I'm not skinning coon for a $2.40 average. I'll take my chances at auction with Veterans Day+ se SD coon...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6375867
11/17/18 01:24 PM
11/17/18 01:24 PM
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I've watched more of the video. It is sort of addicting. I've watched up through the first (only?) transaction of finished coon and it appears to me that the seller was getting between $3-5 more for his finishing work then just selling green. I'm assuming his single (this guy sold 30 coon) $20 hide would have been in the $15 green pile, his 3 $15 finished in the $10 green pile, 12 $9 coon in the $5 green, and his 7 $5 finished in the $2 green group. The 7 $2-1 would have been in the dollar or "no value" pile.
Comparing in my head his lot of finished bandits to my typical lots, I hardly ever have slate or blue coon so that would help bump my average if I sold to GFW and I think my overall handling is better- less grease on the inspection window and less "damage" holes. This guy's average for his finished coon was $7.33 and he got his money that day and didn't pay any commission or membership fees. Still, even in my worse years with NAFA since the 2nd auction of 2013, my annual averages were 17-21% higher than this lot but maybe those years selling to GFW would have been money ahead. I wish I caught more so I could spread my lots around and test multiple venues. Maybe some day...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: eastwood44mag]
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11/17/18 02:26 PM
11/17/18 02:26 PM
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Can't help but wonder... why run fur routes in November when the fur isn't prime? Great observation!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6375932
11/17/18 03:57 PM
11/17/18 03:57 PM
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Interesting comment at about -27:30 in the video.
If a seller isn't satisfied with the offers the truck guy is giving, a seller would have to "start at the bottom and worth his way back up in value" to take the fur back. Hmmmm...that sounds a little odd. So, if I'm not satisfied with the offer on say my top hides but I'm ok with offers on the middle and lower piles, I'd have to nix the whole deal...? That doesn't sound overly flexible. I guess GWF is doing a guy a favor by taking those sub- $5 coons but they get your good stuff for providing this "service". Just like taking those grinners and other "no value" furs off your hands for you instead of you having to throw them away when you get home. Funny how that works.
Ok, lunch is over and I have coons that need fleshing in the garage.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6375983
11/17/18 05:58 PM
11/17/18 05:58 PM
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Yeah, I haven't heard any of the sellers state what their lots consist of, like, "here are my 3x" etc or push back on any of the guy's calls. I wonder how many of these green coon sellers even know the size length differences except, "big, medium, and small"...? I guess if a person doesn't put them up, you don't really worry much about the difference between 29 and 31 inches.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6376018
11/17/18 06:54 PM
11/17/18 06:54 PM
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Nice video. I for one would like to see more video's like this,it tells the trapper a lot.. If you are worried about his grade/price you can always process and ship them, it's that simple.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6376033
11/17/18 07:13 PM
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f you are worried about his grade/price you can always process and ship them, it's that simple.
And I do. My comments on this thread were trying to understand their processes more and understand why so many people sell to them. I get paid in my real life to ask questions so that's what I do. Now I understand their processes a bit more than before watching the video. I guess if people are happy with those averages on the first part of the season or their entire season and for the convenience the route truck provides, more power to ya.
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6376044
11/17/18 07:25 PM
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We got to see the process for what it is. As long as the buyer and seller are satisfied, that's all that matters. I personally could watch hours of buying and sorting and grading fur. I find it very interesting.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: FACEBOOK LIVE IN THE FUR TRUCK
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
#6376065
11/17/18 07:58 PM
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Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
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A 29.5 inch coon at GFW is a XL. Been that way forever. Everywhere else is a double. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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