I got a fiber tough 12+ years ago....the strap keepers didn't last a season. I upgraded to loring a few years ago and would definitely recommend going that route.

Oneoldboot

Thanks for the wagon tip. I don't pack as much as some of your guys but any little but helps. I use a 5 gallon bucket and backpack. After I saw your tip of the wagon it hit me, get a yard cart from tsc! Oneoldboot Ky back thanks you!

I use my fiber tough a lot. I took the straps off and attached a pack frame to it. There is a guy that sells millitary surplus at the WI conventions. (He was also at the national last year.) He sells the lightweight frame, straps, and kidney belt for $30 if I remember correctly. Best improvement I made to it and it'll last forever

I stated off with the top version and then went to the bottom version. Works fantastic. 21 gallon trash can inside of an ALICE Pack.

I'm glad someone gave CPR to this thread. The bottom of my pack basket literally fell out this season so I'm on the search for another. I appreciate all the tips and ideas people have shared. I had never even heard of Loring pack baskets before. They look great.

Maybe I'll take a little from everything and put together something myself. If ever I do, I'll share a pic of what I manage to create.

Thanks, Andrew