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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382423
11/26/18 09:43 AM
11/26/18 09:43 AM
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Leave them in the death ray till they totally expire no blood unless you knick the attery in the neck. I get most of my blood from the ear area but it only takes seconds to have the hide off after that. One's shot with bigger calibers I peroxide in side and out then stich shut . The results are great peroxide foams the blood right out.Few days later a fine toothed brush makes it all dissapear


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: TONY.F] #6382504
11/26/18 11:37 AM
11/26/18 11:37 AM
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Hate to steal Lees thunder about the death ray but we killed all our coon with a snare.

You need a snare with a positive lock. The other end of the snare had a loop and through that loop we had a dowel. That way you had something to hang on to. Then we had a stick with a slotted piece of metal on the end.
You dropped the loop over the head placed the snare In the slot and pushed the stick toward the lock and pulled the other end. This would choke down the coon. You just had to make sure the coon was close to expiring and not going to run away once you took It out of the trap. Never tried It on a coyote but can't see why It wouldn't work It's the same principle as this Death Ray deal.


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382539
11/26/18 12:44 PM
11/26/18 12:44 PM
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Yep ya stole Lee's thunder! Now can you make it rain on him also?

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: James Peterson] #6382586
11/26/18 01:51 PM
11/26/18 01:51 PM
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I can try.


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382624
11/26/18 02:34 PM
11/26/18 02:34 PM
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LOL! Watch out Lee your going to get rained on!

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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382722
11/26/18 05:18 PM
11/26/18 05:18 PM
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Haven't tried this yet since I haven't had any traps out, but once I do, I'm hopeful it will work quickly. And you can laugh at my welding if you want, it won't offend me. Ha

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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382742
11/26/18 05:49 PM
11/26/18 05:49 PM
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Looks good! I believe that would work. Keep us posted.

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: The Beav] #6382759
11/26/18 06:27 PM
11/26/18 06:27 PM
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Morgantown, WV
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Looks like it will work, ND. Let us know how it does.

Originally Posted by The Beav

Hate to steal Lees thunder about the death ray but we killed all our coon with a snare.

You need a snare with a positive lock. The other end of the snare had a loop and through that loop we had a dowel. That way you had something to hang on to. Then we had a stick with a slotted piece of metal on the end.
You dropped the loop over the head placed the snare In the slot and pushed the stick toward the lock and pulled the other end. This would choke down the coon. You just had to make sure the coon was close to expiring and not going to run away once you took It out of the trap. Never tried It on a coyote but can't see why It wouldn't work It's the same principle as this Death Ray deal.


I’ve tried the snare deal, Death Ray is much easier and faster. I used a snare for dispatch in my second season, and a 220 Belisle my third season, and a .22 for a couple of seasons, and the DR for the last 2 seasons. The 220 worked ok, but still not as good as the DR in my opinion. It worked best on coon. You can use your snare, I got tired of trying to open a lock tangled in dry fur let alone wet, muddy fur. Get a couple muddy coons on a day when the temp drops and see how long you wanna pick mud out of a cam lock. Those things can freeze up in about 5 seconds on a real cold day. It’s not an issue with the DR.
Also, I don’t have a chip on my shoulder with Lee over not selling me a fleshing knife like 50 years ago like Beav does so I will just let Lee keep making mine. By the time I spend who knows how long trying to imitate it, I can just go to work for a few hours and make the money to buy a good one. You should actually try one someday Beav instead of just talking about it unless you are scared you might have to admit you like something that Lee made. grin

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382801
11/26/18 07:15 PM
11/26/18 07:15 PM
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AMEN Dfabs!!! I have a 3 footer, I wanted a 4 footer. Lee talked me into the 3 footer, but I believe he wanted me to get a 2 footer! Seems like that would be short, but it's not. I may have to get another someday. I'm so confused!!! LOL Hope your following all this 3togo...

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: Nd native] #6382806
11/26/18 07:20 PM
11/26/18 07:20 PM
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I made a dispatch pole out of pvc and a caulking gun and it works great. Surprised me how quickly a coyote expired. No blood at all. Won’t use anything else if I can help it.

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382871
11/26/18 08:16 PM
11/26/18 08:16 PM
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Dfabs your a dork.

Me and lee go back about 30 years. Were pretty close friends. The fleshing knife thing was just a joke. He was hired to make those knives for a certain Individual and couldn't sell them under the table. And I respected that.
You don't have a clue about me or Lee.

I'm a cheap SOB and I'm not buying a DR when I can shot that coyote with my 410 with little or NO blood. And have you ever tried to put that DR on a live coyote that Is hung up In 6' CR with a 12' foot catch circle. Try It sometime and let me know how It works.

Lee makes great equipment and I have the greatest respect for the man Even though he Is a agent for FHA. LOL

I could tell all of you how to make a choke down device but I'm not going to. And It can be built for less then $10.00


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6382891
11/26/18 08:34 PM
11/26/18 08:34 PM
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I have found coyotes bleed a LOT less if you let them sit a good 8 hrs. Some say they peel a lot easier when warm....and I've done it off my tailgate but I now let them sit a day and things are a LOT less messy.

I have found the same thing true for beaver as well. Not that beaver bleed like a coyote but it brings it down to none by letting them sit.

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: The Beav] #6382996
11/26/18 09:36 PM
11/26/18 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Dfabs your a dork.

Me and lee go back about 30 years. Were pretty close friends. The fleshing knife thing was just a joke. He was hired to make those knives for a certain Individual and couldn't sell them under the table. And I respected that.
You don't have a clue about me or Lee.

I'm a cheap SOB and I'm not buying a DR when I can shot that coyote with my 410 with little or NO blood. And have you ever tried to put that DR on a live coyote that Is hung up In 6' CR with a 12' foot catch circle. Try It sometime and let me know how It works.

Lee makes great equipment and I have the greatest respect for the man Even though he Is a agent for FHA. LOL

I could tell all of you how to make a choke down device but I'm not going to. And It can be built for less then $10.00


Lol...somebody has to screw with you, Beav. Maybe you missed the smile at the end.

I still carry a pistol. Never know when you might wanna shoot a squirrel or something along the line. I nose tap them so I don’t chase them around, but I also run very few CRs. We are allowed to use entanglement, and we don’t have any lack of brush in WV. If I have something that’s toe caught though, it gets dispatched immediately with the pistol. That might be 3 a season, but that’s the only blood I deal with.

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383006
11/26/18 09:44 PM
11/26/18 09:44 PM
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Beav I believe a yote in a 6' cr is easier to get in the catch pole than one in a foothold.
A 4' piece of rebar and a hammer is all you need.
Step into the circle and drive in the rebar.
Step out walk the yote around to the rebar.
They pin themselves down for you. Just what works for me

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383036
11/26/18 10:16 PM
11/26/18 10:16 PM
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I have a Ketch-All Pole. Once its tightened it has a spring release. I think if yesterdays blizzard drop clears up in a week or so I might be able to start truck trapping again. I'm checking on foot right now. Not a lot of fun, but can't drive to any of the sets I have out. When I can, I think a nose knock and the Pole will get a try out.
I've said this before on here, all you folks are great with answers. And Beav, the .410 thing ain't a bad idea. I 12ga'ed a yote during turkey season years ago from about 25 yds with a load of 4's. He was bedded behind a tree and when he looked uphill to see that hen turkey calling he got a face full. Never moved. No blood.

Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383164
11/27/18 12:34 AM
11/27/18 12:34 AM
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Sorry Dfabs If I took It the wrong way. It just kind of ticked me off since Lee and I are good friends.

Wet dog that's a good Idea and It will work. But I'm not hauling around hammers and re bar when I can take them out with the 410.

I live marketed coyotes and fox for 15 years and we only used foot holds. And getting a catch pole on them was fairly easy.

Let's look at It this way when you shoot small game or game birds with a shot gun do they bleed all over the place? No because In most cases the small shot carries the fur or feathers Into the shot hole and plugs It up. The same thing happens when shooting coyotes In the head. Your not giving them a full load It's only a few pellets that are making contact. And those holes are only the size of a pencils lead end.
If I catch and kill any coyotes this winter I'll try and get some pictures of the death of those coyotes.

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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383168
11/27/18 12:41 AM
11/27/18 12:41 AM
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Shooting trapped fur with a shotgun is retarded.


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383173
11/27/18 12:51 AM
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Well you don't check your traps every day and some of your catches are In traps for days maybe weeks and I think that's retarded.
I've been on a few Canadian trap lines and I know how It plays out.


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383175
11/27/18 12:55 AM
11/27/18 12:55 AM
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LOL.


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Re: skinning coyotes [Re: 3togo] #6383469
11/27/18 12:48 PM
11/27/18 12:48 PM
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I tend to agree with Boco on this one. I have skinned a bobcat that was killed with a shotgun and that is not something I would recommend.

If it works for you Beav, more power to to ya but I will pass on shotgun dispatch.


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