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CITES Tag & Taxidermy #6384145
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Is it a requirement to keep your CITES tag post taxidermy?

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384154
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Depends on the state difference laws for different states I don’t think there is any federal law that requires it but I just hide mine in the base for good measure

Your taxidermist should know what is required in your state and if not I would go to someone else and have it done



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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384155
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If you just plan to keep it, no. Its only for “export”, sale, or trade to prove it was taken legally. It wouldn’t hurt anything to keep it, but you don’t need it unless you plan to sell it in the future.

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: M.Magis] #6384172
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If you are not selling it, it doesn’t even require a CITES tag from what I understand from our WCO.

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384277
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My cat rug doesn't have the cites tag was the taxidermist supposed to keep it on it?

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384456
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In kansas you have to keep it.


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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384463
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In most states, once a pelt is tanned the CITES tag can b removed. With a taxidermy mount, it would be easy for the taxidermist to hide the tag inside the mount or rug, in a place that was readily accessible in case it was ever needed.

even for a wall hanger, it wouldn't hurt to keep the tag after it is removed. You never know when you are going to run into an overzealous new game warden that thinks he/she knows everything.


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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384492
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Thanks wissmiss. So would it be ok to sell the rug of I wanted to?
I ran my hand across the rug but could not feel the tag

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384525
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I don't see any problem selling the rug. It is a finished product sort of like a fur coat. Lots of bobcat rugs and bought and sold every year.

Please keep in mind, the above statement is my opinion based on many years in the business. I am not a F&G official.


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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384594
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Thanks for the input, I planned to tuck the tag behind the mount, it wasn't a rhetorical question- I wanted to know if it's a nice to have or must have.

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384595
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Thanks that's what I was thinking.

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384610
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CITES-Convention on INTERNATIONAL Trade in Endangered Species.
You can apply for a cites permit here free of charge to sell or give a cites listed animal in another country.
I had to get one to bring a bearskin rug to my father in Ireland.When he passed I had to get another one to bring it back.
A lot of animals that are not endangered are on the list and require a cites permit to move across international borders because they or product made from them resemble or are indistinguishable from endangered species.
The cites permit is basically a certification and traceability document assuring customs that the article is not endangered and can be legally traded internationally.

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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6384797
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If the rug is going to cross state lines, it MUST have a CITES tag on it. Part of the Lacey Act. If staying within your state, that would be dependent on state laws.

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Thanks

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: M.Magis] #6385029
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
If the rug is going to cross state lines, it MUST have a CITES tag on it. Part of the Lacey Act. If staying within your state, that would be dependent on state laws.


I am going to disagree. My understanding is that a finished product does not need a CITES tag attached. The Lacey Act, the way I understand it, applies to "raw" pelts.

When you buy a bobcat coat, there aren't multiple CITES tags on it or hidden in the lining.


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Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: wissmiss] #6385120
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Originally Posted by M.Magis
If the rug is going to cross state lines, it MUST have a CITES tag on it. Part of the Lacey Act. If staying within your state, that would be dependent on state laws.


I am going to disagree. My understanding is that a finished product does not need a CITES tag attached. The Lacey Act, the way I understand it, applies to "raw" pelts.

When you buy a bobcat coat, there aren't multiple CITES tags on it or hidden in the lining.

What you’re saying makes sence, but its contrary to what I was told when I did taxidermy. I’ve read the Lacey Act and could never see where it specified raw, it just says “skins”. Guess I’m not sure, just going by what I was told. Which could have been wrong.

Re: CITES Tag & Taxidermy [Re: Eagleye] #6385229
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When a skin has been preserved or tanned it is no longer a skin and no longer has to have this tag attached but it is in a person's best interest to keep this and a rag with information attached but not required.


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