Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/26/18 08:32 PM
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I use peat moss and I've never used a pan tensioner on mine and been using them for years mine are offset and small coon and deer will pull out but that's a plus. Maybe you need to tighten your pants up some to make sure they are committing and not light footing your pans.
No matter where you go there you are.
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/26/18 09:25 PM
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Normally, if you look close at both jaws, you can see the scuff in the jaws where something has pulled out. Normally, with a deer, there will be two distinct marks on one jaw, and a solid mark on the other. A 650 is a exact copy of an MJ 600 sterling, with the exception of the pan and trigger. I have a bunch of sterlings, and you will not hold a deer in one, never have in prolly close to fourty years. But they will leave that distinct marks in the jaws.....just look at things a little closer! You cannot assume anything when trapping!
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/26/18 09:32 PM
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Sounds like every deer spring I've had. Trap at the end of chain out of bed and no circle. I've never had a pullout from a 650 either
Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
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12/26/18 09:48 PM
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What does pan tension have to do with a pullout in the first place? If trap pan has little or no tension it goes off easier, too easy, if pan has like 3 lbs it Should only fire when weight of a foot is applied to the pan
Last edited by Tactical.20; 12/26/18 09:49 PM.
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/26/18 09:52 PM
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no catch circle? deer. catch circle with a little blood on the jaws? front footed coon.
Last edited by The Possum Man; 12/26/18 09:54 PM.
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
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12/26/18 11:42 PM
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I sold my 650's always set off and hard to set and bed , love the 450's easy to set and bed hold most anything
50 + years of trapping & some fur buying and i still know nothing.
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/27/18 12:16 AM
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It sure sounds like deer. How far back from your dirthole are you bedding the trap?
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/27/18 07:30 AM
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thanks for the replies guys....and I guess i'll have to accept that its deer messing around. I kinda question it though,because after I remake the sets.......no action. wouldn't deer come back and keep screwing with it?
as far as bedding issues and coon messin around...always a possibility....but i'm using a cookie cutter. don't think I ever had this much issues when I ran bridger #2 ...........I just quit using them cause I got tired of having to fix the dogs all the time .
for those who are wondering............the trap is usually 9-10 inches away from the attractor.
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
[Re: foxkidd44]
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12/27/18 10:18 AM
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Very strong odors will draw lots of interest in rolling particularly when applied at ground level or on exposed objects. Lots of skunk, hard aged odors, tonquin musk, rotten aged materials and a strong urine application will attract deer and other hooved animals not just furbearers. Get those odors deeper if using that kind of product in a hole or cut back on the amount used if applied to a near surface set area. My evaluation of these situations has proven to be the above conditions in most cases when troubleshooting for some trappers over the years. It seems to be the logic amongst some trappers that more lure or bait is better. I see and hear this all the time. Cut back on your usage to the point that you think it isn't enough then it is good. You may be surprised at the result. Set conditions like crusting and pan tension etc can all impact such things as well.
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Re: bout fed up with mb650s
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12/27/18 10:58 AM
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Michael Morris
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Been using 650s for about 5 years, love them, still my favorite coyote trap to date. Had my 1st legitimate coyote pullout this year. Pondered on it quite a bit. What could of happened? Best I can figure is that I used to much local dirt, causing a thick crust over top of the trap, resulting in a toe catch and as I was pulling up, he was pulling out I've been more midnful of the amount of local dirt I use to blend and I don't expect any more issues. Still love the 650, hated that I lost that coyote, but 1 in 5 years aint too bad, and I am 99% sure it was my own fault. Learn, adjust, move on Good luck!
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