Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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12/30/18 10:59 AM
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I've experimented with using Mark's set with a little different twist. I trap almost exclusively in big woods mostly logging roads . I did some testing using my deep freeze before I started using it with success. I found that foam shelf lining will not absorb water. When I put it in water it felt wet but remained pliable even after hours in the deep freeze. Anywhere the trap touches dirt there is a layer of foam. Using Mark's technique of digging the bed so only the levers touch the dirt I found I can lay the free jaw on dirt with the foam liner. I tested both the foam shelf liner and black screen as the actual pan cover and find I prefer the foam shelf liner. Grass, hay, etc. just doesn't look natural on the forest floor so I use a very thin layer of leaves. (beech are the thinnest leaves in the woods) . I then spray the whole set soaking wet to make the leaves lay flat and look natural. Left the whole thing in the deep freeze for 24 hours so that every thing was frozen solid. I rested the handle of a 3 lb. hammer and the trap snapped perfectly. These are pictures from the original testing with a container of dirt and using the freeze. This is the set trap in the freezer.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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12/30/18 02:05 PM
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Looks like you put the foam on top of the jaws and the foam will be between the jaws and the animals foot Test that theory. If the cover extends only about 1/4" over the jaws and there is weight on the pan the jaws should clear the cover when the trap fires.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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12/30/18 03:35 PM
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That might be true, but it looks like there’s an awful lot of pan cover in those jaws. I run MB550s and KOs. Both have a low pan so screen under the jaws is no problem. I’d rather be safe than sorry. Looks like there’s about 1-2” sticking out of that left jaw.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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12/31/18 08:43 AM
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It worked flawlessly. The dirt was frozen as hard as a rock. It took slightly over 3 lbs. to fire the trap. Even though the dirt was wet and I also sprayed it down with water, the foam prevented the trap from freezing to the wet dirt. Going to set a line tomorrow. Weather is expected to be wet with rain and snow all week and nights below freezing. If you look at the pattern on the outside of the loose jaw that was made by the foam it shows how well the steel seperated from the foam.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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12/31/18 11:10 AM
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I am impressed by your effort and interested in your experiment.
Is there enough space that you expect the trap will get a bite on the paw and hold? The Zagman cautions about the taco effect.
Do you by chance have a leg / paw to use? Or 3-4 volunteer fingers?
Good luck with your traps set in the real life mud. Please keep us informed. Lots of pictures please.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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Hern - those camo pan covers are fancy! How did they work? Are you going into production? If you make them snug to the inside of an mb550, I’ll buy some to try.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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It worked flawlessly. The dirt was frozen as hard as a rock. It took slightly over 3 lbs. to fire the trap. Even though the dirt was wet and I also sprayed it down with water, the foam prevented the trap from freezing to the wet dirt. Going to set a line tomorrow. Weather is expected to be wet with rain and snow all week and nights below freezing. If you look at the pattern on the outside of the loose jaw that was made by the foam it shows how well the steel seperated from the foam. The Right(loose jaw) looks fine, but the left jaw I would be worried about,as the steel screen is between the jaw & pipe in picture, or if set on your line, it would be between jaw & the animals foot. You need to cut the wire screen or liner to fit inside the jaws, NOT over the jaws. Like someone else said, if your making Marks Pipe Dream set the correct way, there is NO DIRT touching the trap except the leavers & outside edge of jaws.
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Re: Pipe Dream Set freeze proofing
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It worked flawlessly. The dirt was frozen as hard as a rock. It took slightly over 3 lbs. to fire the trap. Even though the dirt was wet and I also sprayed it down with water, the foam prevented the trap from freezing to the wet dirt. Going to set a line tomorrow. Weather is expected to be wet with rain and snow all week and nights below freezing. If you look at the pattern on the outside of the loose jaw that was made by the foam it shows how well the steel seperated from the foam. The Right(loose jaw) looks fine, but the left jaw I would be worried about,as the steel screen is between the jaw & pipe in picture, or if set on your line, it would be between jaw & the animals foot. You need to cut the wire screen or liner to fit inside the jaws, NOT over the jaws. Like someone else said, if your making Marks Pipe Dream set the correct way, there is NO DIRT touching the trap except the leavers & outside edge of jaws. The left jaw wasn’t touching dirt. I’ll take your suggestion and cut the screen down so it fits inside the jaw. The aluminum screen is pretty flexible, that’s why I let it sit on the jaws.
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