Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 05:46 AM
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danny clifton
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no plans to even pay it down marty. to much money to be made from military contracts, welfare and other subsidies. you should quit talking about it, get back to work and pay your taxes. end of the quarter is only a few days away.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 08:57 AM
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I work for the Conservation District but housed by NRCS. In my experience when the government shuts down I have to move all my materials back up to the district and can't do any work related to NRCS (big pain in the butt). Pay doesn't affect me but it does for NRCS.
Michael Schlauch Dogwood Whitetails
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 10:49 AM
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I thought the POTUS said that those working with out pay told him they were happy to do so?? Build that Wall!! The ones complaining were just liberals and democrats trying to stall the wall? When the air traffic controllers union went on strike, Ragen fired them all..Showed them who is in charge..If a big business decides to lock out workers no pay asking for concessions. Everyone gets their undies in a bundle things get done. If the government is shut down I say shut it down.. Unpaid should be unpaid and those still working should grow a pair and walk out. No pay don't stay.. Sort out the true Americans from the riff-raff...Then we'd find out who the real essential or nonessential are. It's all so simple!
Mac
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 12:41 PM
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This will be a great missed opportunity to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 12:56 PM
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JMO, but non essential means deadwood here in the private sector and here in the private sector I can't tell what we're missing with the shutdown. Maybe we ought to consider making it a regular thing. Yeah, I figured this would pop up, surprised it didn't come up sooner. I think the term "essential" probably should be replaced with "emergency/immediate need/safety" or some other term. Ok, let's follow Warrior's "dead wood" analogy and see what will happen if all the dead wood simply disappeared overnight. No one to process AntiGov's SS claim when he decides to finally take it No one to process Warrior's Medicare claims- I think that's mostly contracted out but fed contractors don't get paid in a shutdown either No federal research of any kind (whether that's being done in house or selecting awardees of grants)- health, wildlife/fisheries, environment, earth sciences, etc No one to operate or maintain national parks/monuments/historic sites/battlefields etc of any kind No one to operate or maintain national wildlife refugees, national forests, national grasslands, etc No one to operate/approve grazing or mineral leases on federal land No one to determine & approve timber harvesting off of federal land (if they do much of that anymore) No one to approve off-shore hydrocarbon extraction in national waters No one to set inter-state hunting seasons, such as with waterfowl No one to administer various agricultural and rural programs in all the counties of the U.S. No one to process/issue U.S. passports (want to go to Canada on a hunting trip and don't have a passport already, tough ti**y) No one to propose specs for new weapon systems for the military (not sure on that one--may be "essential") No one to issue your mail-order bride a visa to come to the U.S. etc, etc,, etc But, hey, who's counting... The USA, a shinning beacon of freedom and capitalism that all the world can emulate.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 01:21 PM
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I work seasonal for the National Park Service and everybody gets their back pay,since federal employees get paid every 2 weeks,and these shutdowns don't last that long it really isn't that big of a deal.The shutdown of 2012(?) was a big farce.I'm not saying this because I was no Obama fan but the tactics used to close sections of parks down was nothing but one huge publicity stunt and the news media ran with it.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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12/28/18 01:33 PM
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Non-essential in the NPS generally means the field help,parks in the northern states have shut down operations and projects for the year with the exception of trail grooming for cross country skiers and snowmobilers.I honestly cannot recall administration within the NPS being laid off(didn't say it didn't happen,but I know they didn't get laid off to the same degree that maintenance did).Law Enforcement was kept on.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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Star Flakes, Thanks for the OPM link..... That's ALL I was looking for. It sure doesn't take much to have a thread get hijacked and go South. I posted this thread to find out what is actually happening with the fed workers and if they'll get back pay. Our mail lady starts at 8:00 A.M., throwing mail at the P.O. For her route. She runs 2 routes because there are not enough carriers to deliver. The P.O. Employment Want Ad is on line, but nobody replies. Must not be enough incentive to work for the USA gov. Decent pay and retirement??????? There's a statement at the top of this forum that says. "No Politics", yet within a matter of a few responses, there's talk about Dems, the past president, personal attacks on federal workers. I'm 76 years old and follow the words of old #43, God rest his soul.......... "Im not on the Left, I'm not on the Right...... I don't even know if I've got a dog in this fight"! Just looking for info. I love learning about "trap smithing", new fur handling techniques, and stories/pics from trappers in other states. I have made some great friends on this site and hope to continue doing so. Before I get called a "drama llama", or told I shouldn't "hold my breath until somebody agrees with me", I'm not here for either one of this reasons....... By the way, I taught high school kids for 44 years, so I'm really used to "Holding my breath"!
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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So the people working payroll are non-essential?
There are still taxes being taken out of my check... Are the people who process incoming revenue non-essential too?
Mike
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Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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So the people working payroll are non-essential?
There are still taxes being taken out of my check... Are the people who process incoming revenue non-essential too?
Mike They've probably been replaced by automation. If every citizen were compelled to go to the local tax house and pay in cash bi weekly or monthly as they were paid for what they earned, taxes would be a lot less than they are now.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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Just finished a full week of busting my butt at the VA hospital and will be back there on Monday as will the rest of the staff. Operations as usual.
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Re: Any Federal Workers Out There?
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So the people working payroll are non-essential?
There are still taxes being taken out of my check... Are the people who process incoming revenue non-essential too?
Mike They've probably been replaced by automation. If every citizen were compelled to go to the local tax house and pay in cash bi weekly or monthly as they were paid for what they earned, taxes would be a lot less than they are now. If I had one wish regarding legislation, it would be to remove tax withholding...every citizen would be required to pay their taxes quarterly, to support the level of government they voted for. THAT, my Friends, would be the quickest ticket to increased Individual Freedom!
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