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The Rio Grande and the Wall #6433231
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The center of the Rio is the border between Mexico and the U.S. If the wall is built it will have to be on U.S. soil and it will stop U.S. citizens from using this natural resource so what economic impact will it have ? Do we really want to give the Rio to Mexico?

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433235
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We went to big bend national park. We visited some hot springs, I was drunk and I fell in the river. There was a park ranger nearby who saw the whole thing, he told me I ought to go to the DR for a checkup, the river is full of nastiness, like raw sewage. Yes, let mexico have its puddle.


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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433244
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From what I hear all that is left of it by the time in gets there is a flowing salty sewer you can wade across in muck boots.


I can't believe that cop put me in the back seat when I clearly called shotgun.
Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433247
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Looks like yes.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433267
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The Rio goes through several states before Mexico. If the US gives mexico the Rio then the states would be impacted negatively. Great fishing rafting can be had in the Rio. Texas and NM already fight over water rights and usage add Mexico in the mix and it would get nasty.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433295
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There is a lot of country that wall isn't going to get built in for years if ever. Private property that will have to be taken under imminent domain. Miles and miles is an indian reservation where a lot of border is marked by t posts that used to have a few strands of barb wire on them. I have always suspected that reservation is a big giant door for people and drugs. I don't think even Trump can convince a judge that taking more land from Indians is a good idea.

No welfare for illegals
No driver license
No public school
Seek and prosecute employers
No free health care of any kind
End the war on drugs

Make it easier for the guy who just wants to work and feed his kids do so legally.

No more need for a wall


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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: danny clifton] #6433303
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Originally Posted by danny clifton


No welfare for illegals
No driver license
No public school
Seek and prosecute employers
No free health care of any kind
End the war on drugs

Make it easier for the guy who just wants to work and feed his kids do so legally.

No more need for a wall

I'd extend emergency healthcare (doctors take an oath after all) followed by immediate return to home country.

Really double down on the employers and hold them accountable for accepting and not verifying falsified I9s.

Also the financial institutions that lend illegal aliens money for homes and cars.

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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433305
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Build the wall in the middle of the river!

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: danny clifton] #6433307
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Look I am a far right conservative. It’s just my beliefs. I hate no one. Period. Pelosi, Cortez, Shumer etc., and I are on completely differt sides of probably all issues. I still do not hate them or attack them personally or on how they look.

But as it stands right now the people who come here illegally have broken existing laws. And they are not US citizens. I know that their is a system for them to claim assylum. As there should be. But assylum was not set up or meant to be for these peoples situations. If they are so desperate why and how do they all or nearly all have cell phones?? Who is paying for their phones?? Also I have heard it said that they should be allowed in because of the economic hardships in their own countries. True. However, this is one of the, if not THE most prosporous countries on the planet. Based on that fact the mojority of the world’s population meets the economic hardship requirement.

All that aside how can anyone be for giving these people free government assistance??

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433318
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People are for "free" government assistance because they mistakenly believe they are benefitting the recipients. Revolution was a past time for a couple centuries in Mexico. Needs to happen again. Eventually they will solve their own problems if we quit "helping" them.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: danny clifton] #6433321
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Very, very true.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433336
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If the Rio is that important to the citizens of the U.S. then just take it. I would bet our military could out do Mexico's military any day.
Seriously though, I don't believe a continuous wall is necessary. The wall should be used to provide pinch points. If you ever trapped bobcats,beaver, and other critters you would understand the concept of using a "wall" to make such critters follow a path that leads over or through your trap.
I'm also in favor of implementing those things Danny mentioned.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433465
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A combination of all things mentioned would fix the problem.

Truth is politicians don't want to fix the problem. They could of fixed this years ago before the irreversible damage has been done. Our country is changing daily because of the massive number of immigrants pouring into our country.

They come here and our American values get lost.

Long term politicians have sold out this country. Follow the money and the votes and you will see the real crimes against our country.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433473
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No welfare for illegals
No driver license
No public school
Seek and prosecute employers
No free health care of any kind
End the war on drugs


Yes Danny, all that and the wall where applicable. Better to catch as many as can at the border than let them disperse throughout our nation.

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433480
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Originally Posted by hudsonfur
The center of the Rio is the border between Mexico and the U.S.


Can you fish off either bank?
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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433508
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You can fish the Texas side for sure but not sure why you would want to. The cartels have people that "fish" both sides as a look out for BP.
If you want to fish the Rio come fish to northern NM. Great fly fishing

Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433515
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We wont lose any land to Mexico and the wall will have open spots but like everyone says its a sewer and maybe we will patrol the Mex side of the wall after all its still USA


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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433520
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Much a worry about nothing, the river is a natural boundary always has been will continue to be, it's a pinch point for those who feel they can work the system, all that will happen is more arrests being done in those areas.

The wall is more of a analogy of what needs to be done than an actual presence, but so many people cannot relate to words with more letters in them that total more than their IQ !

This is what Trump lay's on the media, they eat it up as they feel they are the dictionary for the regular mass's, if you wish to follow what Trump is doing you must first learn how he place's his ideas out for harvesting LOL

Most will never get it and will continue to move along in their little circles of life wondering when does it ever get better !


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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: hudsonfur] #6433539
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Lets have anyone from the south who wants to come to the USA , spend two yrs building the wall. If at the end of the 2 yr tour of duty they havent caused any problems and have no criminal history we grant them a path to citizenship


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Re: The Rio Grande and the Wall [Re: Pike River] #6433559
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by danny clifton


No welfare for illegals
No driver license
No public school
Seek and prosecute employers
No free health care of any kind
End the war on drugs

Make it easier for the guy who just wants to work and feed his kids do so legally.

No more need for a wall

I'd extend emergency healthcare (doctors take an oath after all) followed by immediate return to home country.

Really double down on the employers and hold them accountable for accepting and not verifying falsified I9s.

Also the financial institutions that lend illegal aliens money for homes and cars.

Yep, and build the wall


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