No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439333
01/25/19 12:05 AM
01/25/19 12:05 AM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,702
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,702
Champaign County, Ohio.
You could sell the buffalo robe and buy several newer ones with the proceeds.

Keith

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439343
01/25/19 12:20 AM
01/25/19 12:20 AM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Posco Offline OP
trapper
Posco  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
It is pretty plush, Ray. It has two layers of felt backing just as you'd see today on your average black bear rug.

I don't know what it's worth, Keith, but I plan on keeping it. I've had it for years.

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: white17] #6439355
01/25/19 12:36 AM
01/25/19 12:36 AM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Posco Offline OP
trapper
Posco  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Originally Posted by white17
I'm having a colonoscopy that day, but you can come along if you like


As luck would have it, I'm having mine the same day. Maybe we could go...you know, dutch.

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439359
01/25/19 12:45 AM
01/25/19 12:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,176
McGrath, AK
W
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17  Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
W

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,176
McGrath, AK
Absolutely ! I feel as though I should punctuate this with a semi-colon ;


Mean As Nails
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439406
01/25/19 02:09 AM
01/25/19 02:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,233
Alaska and Washington State
W
waggler Offline
trapper
waggler  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,233
Alaska and Washington State
I wouldn't worry too much about the arsenic (if there is any) as long as you don't eat it the robe.
Arsenic is a metal just like chromium is a metal, both have toxic compounds, I never hear anyone worrying about chrome tanned leather being toxic.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439458
01/25/19 07:01 AM
01/25/19 07:01 AM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 119
South Dakota
N
Nativetrapper10 Offline
trapper
Nativetrapper10  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 119
South Dakota
thats an interesting looking buffalo robe.. ive never seen one like it and my family shoots three bison a year. we all literally have them all over our house. its too the point now that we literally try to give them away, but nobody is willing to go through the work and money to get them ready for tan. we cant bring ourselves to toss them, so the pile of buffalo robes just grows and grows.

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439639
01/25/19 10:44 AM
01/25/19 10:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by white17
If it does have some evil chemical in it, I wonder if it's possible to re-tan it with newer methods


I've wondered the same thing. When is a good time for that visit? How close to good moose hunting?

grin


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439642
01/25/19 10:46 AM
01/25/19 10:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
Originally Posted by Posco


Here's the robe. One hundred and thirty or so years later and the hair is as tight as the day it was tanned.

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

You need a picture with a Flash


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: 330-Trapper] #6439729
01/25/19 12:07 PM
01/25/19 12:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Posco Offline OP
trapper
Posco  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
You need a picture with a Flash


Maybe these will be a little better. It has two layers of felt covered with what looks to be a wool blanket. The hide looks to be almost as much wool as hair.

I was reading that between the years of 1872-1874, 4.5 million buffalo hides were shipped east. The hunters were paid $3.50 a hide and could shoot upwards of a hundred a day for days on end. By the early 1880s, buffalo numbers were reduced to just a few hundred.

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439741
01/25/19 12:18 PM
01/25/19 12:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,136
Minnesota
Great pictures! Thanks!


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439749
01/25/19 12:34 PM
01/25/19 12:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,946
E central Il
G
Golf ball Offline
trapper
Golf ball  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,946
E central Il
Posco if you don’t mind me asking where did you find it ?

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Golf ball] #6439767
01/25/19 01:10 PM
01/25/19 01:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Posco Offline OP
trapper
Posco  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Originally Posted by Golf ball
Posco if you don’t mind me asking where did you find it ?


Not at all. It came from my mothers side of the family. One of the big regrets I have is not asking more questions of family member about the origins of things. They're all gone now and so are the answers to my questions.

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439801
01/25/19 01:53 PM
01/25/19 01:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,946
E central Il
G
Golf ball Offline
trapper
Golf ball  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,946
E central Il
I hear that ! Thanks , I was just curious ( history nut ) !

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439815
01/25/19 02:15 PM
01/25/19 02:15 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
P
PAskinner Offline
trapper
PAskinner  Offline
trapper
P

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,497
PA
Would I be correct in thinking it looks like they cut the hump out and sewed the hide back together? I have been told the indians often tanned the bulls that way. Hump being very hard to thin and soften. If it was truly indian tanned it would be worth a lot to collectors.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: PAskinner] #6439826
01/25/19 02:30 PM
01/25/19 02:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Posco Offline OP
trapper
Posco  Offline OP
trapper

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 11,298
Maine, Aroostook
Originally Posted by PAskinner
Would I be correct in thinking it looks like they cut the hump out and sewed the hide back together? I have been told the indians often tanned the bulls that way. Hump being very hard to thin and soften.


Interesting that you mention that. In all of the years I've owned this thing, the first time I ever noticed that patch was this morning when I used the flash on my camera. It jumped right out at me. In normal light it doesn't show.

A lot of these robes came out of Canada as well. It would be interesting to know if what you're saying is so.

Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: white17] #6439827
01/25/19 02:30 PM
01/25/19 02:30 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 10,491
MN
S
Steven 49er Offline
trapper
Steven 49er  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 10,491
MN
Originally Posted by white17



I'm having a colonoscopy that day, but you can come along if you like


What a crappy way to spend a day,


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Posco] #6439838
01/25/19 02:45 PM
01/25/19 02:45 PM
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn
N
nightlife Offline
trapper
nightlife  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn


Originally Posted by Posco
It is pretty plush, Ray. It has two layers of felt backing just as you'd see today on your average black bear rug.

I don't know what it's worth, Keith, but I plan on keeping it. I've had it for years.


I don’t blame you that’s a nice one I have an old buffalo coat that came down the family line heavy as sin and twice as hot

I would not really worry about any arsenic at this time from what I understand it was not used in the tanning process but rather as a retardant to prevent bugs and their damage

At least that’s what the old books about taxidermy and tanning tell me

But I could be wrong but also as far as I know arsenic is not absorbed into the skin

But again I could be wrong it’s Been known to happen



�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
― Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: nightlife] #6439958
01/25/19 03:58 PM
01/25/19 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,221
Manitoba
N
Northof50 Offline
trapper
Northof50  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,221
Manitoba
Nightlife;

I don’t blame you that’s a nice one I have an old buffalo coat that came down the family line heavy as sin and twice as hot

I would not really worry about any arsenic at this time from what I understand it was not used in the tanning process but rather as a retardant to prevent bugs and their damage

At least that’s what the old books about taxidermy and tanning tell me

But I could be wrong but also as far as I know arsenic is not absorbed into the skin

But again I could be wrong it’s Been known to happen
[/quote]

Where were you when they were filming in Winnipeg, they needed 6 buffalo coats and paid 300$ a day per coat, plus user fee and 150$ day standin fee for the movie shoot...lasted 21 days that shoot. And the dollars were par then

Arsenic is absorbed in the skin, it was used as a " ladies face whitener " back in the day

Last edited by Northof50; 01/25/19 04:01 PM.
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: Northof50] #6440140
01/25/19 06:08 PM
01/25/19 06:08 PM
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn
N
nightlife Offline
trapper
nightlife  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn
Originally Posted by Northof50
Nightlife;

I don’t blame you that’s a nice one I have an old buffalo coat that came down the family line heavy as sin and twice as hot

I would not really worry about any arsenic at this time from what I understand it was not used in the tanning process but rather as a retardant to prevent bugs and their damage

At least that’s what the old books about taxidermy and tanning tell me

But I could be wrong but also as far as I know arsenic is not absorbed into the skin

But again I could be wrong it’s Been known to happen


Where were you when they were filming in Winnipeg, they needed 6 buffalo coats and paid 300$ a day per coat, plus user fee and 150$ day standin fee for the movie shoot...lasted 21 days that shoot. And the dollars were par then

Arsenic is absorbed in the skin, it was used as a " ladies face whitener " back in the day[/quote]

Interesting did not know it could be absorbed by the skin but something to keep in mind, back in my youth I went to catholic school and we had a nun who was French and I remember her telling how arsenic was used by them to make themselves pale by taking small amounts



�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
― Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Antique buffalo robe question. [Re: nightlife] #6440148
01/25/19 06:15 PM
01/25/19 06:15 PM
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn
N
nightlife Offline
trapper
nightlife  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,884
Mn
By the way I really wish that I had know about that filming I definitely could have used that money as it is that coat just hangs on the wall as a conversation piece I always get a kick when people come over and decide to try it on I never weighed it but it is definitely more then a bit on the heavy side can’t imagine wearing it all day but the it is split up the back to be worn on horse back so the horse should be carrying it most the time

By the way I was my grandfathers who was born in 1878 though I think the coat is older then he was



�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.�
― Robert A. Heinlein
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread