Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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Gulo
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Nikolas -
As a semi-retired carnivore biologist, I'll throw in my 2-cents-worth. Go into the field of wildlife biology, especially if you're already into hunting and trapping. There is certainly a market and probably will continue to be, if you are committed. Know right off the bat, however, that you'll never make any real money. The main reason I'm suggesting that you go that route with your background is that in this day and age, the vast majority of the graduating wildlife biologists are not consumptive users, never have been and never will be. To have a dog in the fight, it is my opinion that all practicing wildlife biologists should be hunters and trappers. Without that basic foundation, most aren't worth a rusty Victor #1. Good luck in your quest, young man.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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01/31/19 07:48 PM
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There is a huge demand for foresters right now. Might be a better path. Wildlife you better plan on at least a master's degree to just get into the state level. Alot of the basic classes are the same so you can start and make up your mind what you want to do as you go. Either way it's point or you could go to vermilion in eky mn for a 2 year degree then transfer to point.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Gulo]
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01/31/19 08:07 PM
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Swamp Wolf
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Nikolas -
As a semi-retired carnivore biologist, I'll throw in my 2-cents-worth. Go into the field of wildlife biology, especially if you're already into hunting and trapping. There is certainly a market and probably will continue to be, if you are committed. Know right off the bat, however, that you'll never make any real money. The main reason I'm suggesting that you go that route with your background is that in this day and age, the vast majority of the graduating wildlife biologists are not consumptive users, never have been and never will be. To have a dog in the fight, it is my opinion that all practicing wildlife biologists should be hunters and trappers. Without that basic foundation, most aren't worth a rusty Victor #1. Good luck in your quest, young man.
Jack Here is your best guidance^^^^ Most state and federal wildlife conservation agencies are struggling to hire staff that hunt, fish, or trap. Potential wildlife field employees that do no participate in hunting, fishing, or trapping have no vested interest in the job and will never be as effective employees as those that do. I was headed in the same direction as you, albeit a little later in life than right out of high school, but due to an unexpected life event, I had to redirect and only obtained an Associates in Wildlife Technology. I have been employed by Georgia DNR for over 23 years. Good luck.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Gulo]
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01/31/19 09:01 PM
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Nikolas -
As a semi-retired carnivore biologist, I'll throw in my 2-cents-worth. Go into the field of wildlife biology, especially if you're already into hunting and trapping. There is certainly a market and probably will continue to be, if you are committed. Know right off the bat, however, that you'll never make any real money. The main reason I'm suggesting that you go that route with your background is that in this day and age, the vast majority of the graduating wildlife biologists are not consumptive users, never have been and never will be. To have a dog in the fight, it is my opinion that all practicing wildlife biologists should be hunters and trappers. Without that basic foundation, most aren't worth a rusty Victor #1. Good luck in your quest, young man.
Jack I agree with Gulo, if you hunt and trap you need to go for it. Non consumptive kids that have never been in the woods, just walking in city parks are taking over the USFWS and state wildlife agencies. I firmly believe you cannot manage animal populations without killing something. Most of the new age biologist don't believe that.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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01/31/19 09:19 PM
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That would be a great career and very much doubt you would have any problem finding a job. Good luck
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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01/31/19 10:14 PM
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For this, you go to Irv Malnarichs Guide School or another that offers that training. You don't learn to pack horses and panniers and knots and horse wrangling and caping customers trophies in Biology classes. My Biology degree, 30 yrs ago, got me a job at a state zoo for awhile, but went back to machining/toolmaking, like Dirty D above, since the money was twice as much. Ended up running QA in Mfg, checking the work of others. Wildlife/Biology work for most states is a labor of love, under paid, but decent benefits and retirement. As a trapper/hunter you could make a difference since most Biologists now days don't have that knowledge/understanding.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
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01/31/19 11:05 PM
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I would imagine a state biologist who is one of us consumptive users would also need to develop excellent political skills as well considering who they report to.
Didn't one get canned or in trouble in commiefornia for hunting mountain lion? Big wig, too, if memory serves.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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01/31/19 11:55 PM
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Nikolas,
Most biology jobs that I'm aware of don't pay very much (at least not for a long time) and are government work. I think it would drive you crazy working with government types; I did it for a while as a consultant, what a joke.
If you like geography/maps, are proficient in math, are into the outdoors and have a scientific mind you might want to consider some type of engineering that involves geology or other earth sciences. "Exploration geology" is my interest, it's considered a specific field of study and work.
I spent the past three days attending a mineral exploration trade show/conference in Vancouver B.C., I've been attending for the past three years. I talk to a lot of people in the mining and exploration industry; there seems to be a lack of young people getting into the industry, especially people who like to spend time in rather remote areas. It's a great field of work, spent in areas that are usually of interest to outdoors-men. The young geologists that I've met really enjoy the work. Plus, they make good money.
Good schools are in Colorado, Montana, and the UBC in Vancouver B.C..
There is a lot of new interest in mineral exploration in Wisconsin, Minnesota and the U.P. of Michigan. There's hundreds of mineral deposits and mines on the Canadian side of the border and the geology doesn't end at the border. After graduation you might even find a job in your part of the Country.
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Re: Marketable wildlife biology
[Re: Nikolas]
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01/31/19 11:59 PM
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Want some great inspiration ? Read about Bart Scheyler. I'm sure I butchered his last name. But being an outdoorsman with a wildlife biology background certainly took him places. He also died broke.
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