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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451012
02/04/19 04:38 PM
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I just grabbed a trap cut a stick and took a pic
If I was setting that to catch something, I would not have left the wires exposed. Fresh and living. Also the space between the trap support and that piece at the front creates a place to put whatever the surrounding ground cover is.
I would not leave the wires like that for fear of fur damage.
I also lead wipe my dog and trigger connection. All they have to do is touch it a suitcase city

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451023
02/04/19 04:47 PM
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So that stick Is a stepping stick where the mink climbs up on It?


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: The Beav] #6451028
02/04/19 04:53 PM
02/04/19 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
So that stick Is a stepping stick where the mink climbs up on It?

All he has to do is touch it Beav and you skinning mink
The trick is to get him to touch it easier said than do most days.

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: The Beav] #6451030
02/04/19 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I think your going to have a hard time getting a mink to commit to a 2 1/2" hole or any sized hole for that matter. . . .


That's a concern. Perhaps there are those who have had success with mink going into the hole.

And as far as me being too old to be out trapping by the time a rule change occurs, the answer is simple --- I'll be trapping forever, Beav. I haven't found the couch just yet.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451042
02/04/19 05:13 PM
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Beav I didn't see your post on the last page
The coon thing. 11/2 at each end of the box.
I'm a dirt trapper, and you can't catch a double with one trap lol
Since I quit archery hunting, I put all my free time into trapping.
I just hope I never stop learning.
How's that couch lol
I'm on mine. Still nursing a hangover

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451049
02/04/19 05:19 PM
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I'm about whipped. Walked back about a mile today to pull some CRs they were closed but I needed to get them out. Snows just about gone but It was a sea of mud I had to get through.
No couch just yet my friend.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Muskrat] #6451056
02/04/19 05:31 PM
02/04/19 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Muskrat
Originally Posted by The Beav
I think your going to have a hard time getting a mink to commit to a 2 1/2" hole or any sized hole for that matter. . . .


That's a concern. Perhaps there are those who have had success with mink going into the hole.
I've never noticed a problem with mink entering a restricted entrance hole of 2 3/4 inches which I have use for many years. It's my opinion, and experience, that the hole is an attraction to them., at least with a wire mesh back to the box providing a see through effect.

Last edited by bctomcat; 02/04/19 06:45 PM.

The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.






Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451057
02/04/19 05:31 PM
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I walked my short line this morning. I would have sworn it was 20 miles till I got home. Lol
I do have to get my carcass off the couch, mother has Bible study tonight. Take it easy Beav

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: bctomcat] #6451096
02/04/19 06:38 PM
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[/quote] I've never noticed a problem with mink entering a restricted entrance hole of 2 3/4 inches which I have use for many years. It's my opinion, and experience, that the hole is an attraction to them., at least with a wire mesh box providing a see through effect.
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Same here, and it maybe matters that they can see through the box.

In a poor market is the time to practice these ideas, or any new idea for that matter.


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: trapper les] #6451099
02/04/19 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by trapper les
. . . In a poor market is the time to practice these ideas, or any new idea for that matter.


Absolutely.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: wetdog] #6451663
02/05/19 11:09 AM
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Interesting concept wet dog. Thanks for the tip.
Sincerely respect your efforts. Generation 4 explains your character.
I can relate to the difficulty in refining a simple concept.

You’ve captured my attention!

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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Boco] #6451674
02/05/19 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Don't know where you sell your mink Lumberjack but my avg last year was more than 3 times that at NAFA.


Fur Harvestors Auction- don't have the paperwork in front of me but that was real close last year with about 80% males. That was including a Top Lot Certificate LOL.

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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451685
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Now Im going to spend probably all day looking for my last paperwork from FHA. The price I quoted Im sure was after commission, which is what really matters anyhow. I remember all of a sudden my cotton grade grew big time.Don't forget, you northern guys have incidentals like weasel, marten, fisher Bobcat Otter when all we got is basically coon and possum to deal with for the most part. I could probably use boxes more with that kind of odds.
36 hour check here which is really ever day which blows for lethal sets.
Les, your spring slots look wide enough for a mink to enter?

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451689
02/05/19 11:59 AM
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There is no logical reason to not have a 4 day check on target specific lethal sets, land or water. It encourages lethal practices.

Go for it Muskrat.

Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451691
02/05/19 12:03 PM
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I am!

Still looking for input on maximum diameter of hole and minimum distance from hole to trigger.

Would like to have handouts at spring WTA meeting in preparation for CC hearings in April.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451703
02/05/19 12:27 PM
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I believe that if you incorporate the use of an overhang on the top it will help keep larger animals back and save on box weight and material. Just an option. But make it a legal option.

I like your handouts idea:)

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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6451706
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I think I would go for a bigger hole size like maybe 3". I still think your going to get more refusals then you will with a open box. Then your going to have at least a 10" set back for the trap.

Is this proposal going to be aimed at just BGs In a box or will It include foot holds.

I would get In touch with Shawn and get his input . Since he may just have the final say on It or at least he will probably have some input on weather It passes or goes away.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: nimzy] #6451712
02/05/19 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
I believe that if you incorporate the use of an overhang on the top it will help keep larger animals back and save on box weight and material. Just an option. But make it a legal option.

I like your handouts idea:)


Agree the overhang would, but I wouldn't want to clutter up the resolution with nonessentials.

I want 0% success in a 'coon snugging up against this box and reaching in to touch the triggers, which just brought up another point. Under the "what ifs" category . . . what if the 'coon jostles the mink box just enough to start that double spring body grip trap sliding forward enough to within paw's reach?

Perhaps language in the resolution that would force the trap to be secured in place in the set position?


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: lumberjack391] #6451714
02/05/19 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Now Im going to spend probably all day looking for my last paperwork from FHA. The price I quoted Im sure was after commission, which is what really matters anyhow. I remember all of a sudden my cotton grade grew big time.Don't forget, you northern guys have incidentals like weasel, marten, fisher Bobcat Otter when all we got is basically coon and possum to deal with for the most part. I could probably use boxes more with that kind of odds.
36 hour check here which is really ever day which blows for lethal sets.
Les, your spring slots look wide enough for a mink to enter?

Well, looks are deceiving, but I tried for an inch or less, and more uniformity in the new slots especially on the other side of the box.

I still have a mink or two at auction too, This year they went to NAFA, but water animals usually go to FHA, and long hair to NAFA.

Beav, I suppose a foothold in the box would eliminate the extended check. I use to make a fisher box that way with a #2 or #3 back 30 years ago. And that would be the problem with a foothold in a box without an exclusion hole, as they'll catch everything.


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Re: Duke 120 or 155 for mink boxes [Re: The Beav] #6451716
02/05/19 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I think I would go for a bigger hole size like maybe 3". I still think your going to get more refusals then you will with a open box. Then your going to have at least a 10" set back for the trap.

Is this proposal going to be aimed at just BGs In a box or will It include foot holds.

I would get In touch with Shawn and get his input . Since he may just have the final say on It or at least he will probably have some input on weather It passes or goes away.


BGs are seen more as a lethal trap than are foot holds. I'd stay with the BGs.

Good idea with Shawn. Whatever finally comes up here I'll run it by him.

As far as the refusals, well, that's the way it goes. I don't see how this would fly with an open box.,


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