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Does anybody have any ideas about when school curriculum's began to be more about indoctrination than facts. I'd like to find some reading material on this subject. Any suggestions or any books or other materials on this subject would be appreciated.

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Right around 2007-2008ish it went into full swing. I don't ever remember hearing any hint of politics while I was in school other than discussing current events. Pledge of allegiance was done every morning.

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It was slowly fazed in via common core. Common core paints history as fluffy as possible.

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It has to be recently. when i went to school they kept politics out of it and current events wasnt a big thing. I graduated in 03.


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I think you need to think much earlier. I believe it really got moving during the Vietnam War. The anti-war movement was always an anti-America movement. Those who were students at the time have become the teachers of the past 40 years.


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Originally Posted by The Possum Man
It has to be recently. when i went to school they kept politics out of it and current events wasnt a big thing. I graduated in 03.


You're from the South. Let me ask you this question:

Is the history of the Civil War recorded in textbooks correctly?

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Originally Posted by white17
I think you need to think much earlier. I believe it really got moving during the Vietnam War. The anti-war movement was always an anti-America movement. Those who were students at the time have become the teachers of the past 40 years.

Agreed

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Im agree with white, late 60s early 70s it was anti everything, its just snowballed from there on.

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Originally Posted by corky
Originally Posted by white17
I think you need to think much earlier. I believe it really got moving during the Vietnam War. The anti-war movement was always an anti-America movement. Those who were students at the time have become the teachers of the past 40 years.

Agreed



I agree. Watching all the teachers cry the day JFK was shot was a time I recall things changed a lot from there on.

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We can go back at least forty-five years. That's when my Social Studies teacher and soccer coach (the un-American sport) tried telling the class our constitution was a living, breathing document. Liberals have dominated public education for a hundred years.

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Originally Posted by trapperjim1
Does anybody have any ideas about when school curriculum's began to be more about indoctrination than facts. I'd like to find some reading material on this subject. Any suggestions or any books or other materials on this subject would be appreciated.


Started in my opinion around the early 1900s at first it was orientated towards turning immigrants into Americans with American ideals but then beginning after WW2 it went slowly into indoctrinating kids into a more socialist style thinking and then really accelerated in the late 60/70 era when all those counter culture types seem to have taken over education and since then has steadily progressed to the point that we are at now where the democratic party has pretty much taken over the education system for their own benefit

But if you want to read something that outlines the way it works look up the collected works of John Dewey its a long boring read but outlines the whole process and how it works and I am sure the basic blueprint of what we have now



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History has always been good to read up till about ww2 time frame.

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Originally Posted by corky
Originally Posted by white17
I think you need to think much earlier. I believe it really got moving during the Vietnam War. The anti-war movement was always an anti-America movement. Those who were students at the time have become the teachers of the past 40 years.

Agreed

Totally agree. We are generations removed from it's introduction.


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The old saying is "the Victor writes the History" . Is it always right , I doubt it.

Then you have instances of someone writing a 100 yrs later such as Shakespeare writing about King Richard.
King Richard was promoting innocent til proven guilty and also speedy bail, but later his horse got stuck and was killed by the victor, then the victor claimed those accomplishments. Is that version true, I dont know , I wasnt there and even then I might not have known what happened. The pen is mightier than the sword and just as dangerous!

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Originally Posted by logger coffey
History has always been good to read up till about ww2 time frame.



Not really if your talking school history books that is, to much is either omitted or changed or slanted and it has been that way right from the beginning of organized education



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Teach your kid how to think. Schools can't do that.

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If you want to know when it changed,just watch some Hollywood movies.It was around the mid 60's when it started to change,and is now fully reversed.

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