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tree fallers? #6474560
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Although I am no pro by any means I did cut some hardwoods back in the 80's. I was taught, for the most part to make the "notch" or "face cut" at an angle down, then straight into the tree. Conventional style notch I guess.

Now I see most fallers using the "Humboldt" which is backwards.

Which one do you guys use? Why the change? Or is it a western vs eastern thing?

Oh, and some guys Bore cut a,most everything. I bore cut some maple and ash. But only those I was worried about a barber chair happening. Some of the guys I knew in Tn. did bore cut when cutting veneer trees though.

Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474575
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Not driven a chain saw much in the last few years but. Maybe just me but I seem to get less pulled wood in the middle when I use a Humboldt cut as opposed to the " normal" notch. I am with you on bore cutting ... just do the dodgy ones that look like they may barber chair and some leaners as well depending on situation. Sometimes do the back cut first and get a wedge in there before cutting the notch. Again it depends on the look of things.

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Let's go Brandon

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Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474579
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I blame the internet and youtube for all the nonsense cutting. Anyone can be an expert by watching youtube.

Re: tree fallers? [Re: patfundine] #6474582
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Originally Posted by patfundine
I blame the internet and youtube for all the nonsense cutting. Anyone can be an expert by watching youtube.



May just be a lack of common sense these days.


Let's go Brandon

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Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474584
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Here

Wait for strong winds the following county Dept around.

No joke, hit by falling ash twice last year while driving. Both times three falling right in front of me while driving.

Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474589
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Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474590
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Humbolt is a western thing. Notch should be at least 90 degrees as the hinge breaks when the notch closes. Bore cut is always good.

Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474594
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We normally use a conventional style notch, but if you happen to have a tree that is going to fall uphill, a Humboldt notch will often keep the butt from slipping off the stump and coming back towards you. I bore cut every tree, even veneer trees. My older brother was hit with a tree limb that broke out while he was chasing a busting tree. He was paralyzed from the waist down. I have never seen any tree worth my ability to walk.

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So patfundine....which way you cut?

Brian that happened to me two weeks ago. Not a whole tree but a large enough branch I about shat myself. We had gotten a little ice and the wind was blowing about 15-20. Still don't know how or why it didn't take my windshield out.

Boring a tree had me puckered more times than not. Because I was worried about the tree anyway.

Some of those veneer cutters bored the entire tree leaving only 4 stools as holding wood. Then the cut those at an angle and let the tree go where ever it wanted. Saved that tree, but tore the heck out of bunch of others.

Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474614
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Well prc2 at least the bar looks good.

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Pcr2....I had a pro mac 55 looked a lot like that.......LOL My dad was NOT amused!!!

Re: tree fallers? [Re: il.trapper] #6474622
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Originally Posted by il.trapper
Although I am no pro by any means I did cut some hardwoods back in the 80's. I was taught, for the most part to make the "notch" or "face cut" at an angle down, then straight into the tree. Conventional style notch I guess.

Now I see most fallers using the "Humboldt" which is backwards.

Which one do you guys use? Why the change? Or is it a western vs eastern thing?

Oh, and some guys Bore cut a,most everything. I bore cut some maple and ash. But only those I was worried about a barber chair happening. Some of the guys I knew in Tn. did bore cut when cutting veneer trees though.

I felled a lot of softwoods. I make a notch, cut the backside with one hand while pushing the tree over with the other, and if it's small spruce, and you hear the "thunk" of it getting cut all the way off, as the tree is going down grab the butt with your leg under it and heave it where you want it, feller bunching by hand, and aiming that top accordingly. I felled a 1000 cord of spruce like that when I was in my late teens and early twenties.


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Never heard of a bore cut.

Must be do to differences between hard and soft wood.

Humbolt out here or your bumping knotts and setting chokers

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One above should be bore

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One with some lean. Some lean in a tree is about as dangerous as I care to get because I'm not a pro and I don't do it for a living. I have a guy who is a pro for anything much more dangerous than some lean.

https://youtu.be/uZR7rw4HVVY

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Originally Posted by il.trapper
So patfundine....which way you cut?

Brian that happened to me two weeks ago. Not a whole tree but a large enough branch I about shat myself. We had gotten a little ice and the wind was blowing about 15-20. Still don't know how or why it didn't take my windshield out.

Boring a tree had me puckered more times than not. Because I was worried about the tree anyway.

Some of those veneer cutters bored the entire tree leaving only 4 stools as holding wood. Then the cut those at an angle and let the tree go where ever it wanted. Saved that tree, but tore the heck out of bunch of others.



Yeah,. Same here

Got golf ball size dents all over my hood and passenger size quarter panel from branches. Good thing is the trees are so rotten branches shatter like glass when you touch them

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I don't know this Humbolt fella , but I 'me sure he came along later, lol.


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I do a face cut most of the time, no bore cut unless it is a lighting strike or leaner etc. Humboldt is nice when doing giant notches in big trees because the notch will fall out by itself.

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5 big hard maples on 1 stump.hard part was watchin it all go down from safety 50 ft away.i did say goodbye old friend and watched it almost in slow motion.knew it was him or me.









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