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Case skinning beaver #6492013
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Do many of you skin beaver that way sometimes?

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Never, and may I ask why you would?


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492032
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I did a couple small ones like that before,just to try it.Came out like a big rat.

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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492040
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Well, I guess I kind of want to try it out. Something different, and I thought it might look cool for a change. Plus I kind of want to see if it is harder or easier.

I've heard of people doing it in the field.

Thanks for the tips guys. I appreciate it. I'm a good trapper but have shifted a lot of my focus to improving fur handling.

I was short on time and sold numerous carcass beavers to Groeny this year. But they told me they won't buy carcass animals in my area anymore. So I'm studying up on beaver skinning.
I suppose he wouldn't prefer case skinned beavers either, I guess I should've asked him for more clarity.

Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492043
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For most of us we could probably skin 2 beaver the conventional way by time one was skinned cased.


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492046
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Don't skin them cased for the market,unless you case them out from a centerline cut from the tail to the middle of the belly only.Then you can finish the cut after beaming and you can board it normally.It is much more difficult to case skin a beaver than the conventional clean skinning method.

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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492051
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Oh, ok. Good info.

Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492082
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I skin all my beaver cased as my buyer request I do so along with leaving the top side of the tail attached. He has a market for it done that way and he pays better than the local buyers will pay so why not?


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6492145
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I once saw a picture of 1 case tanned, with the tail like that, Scout. It looked neat.

Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6493026
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Case skinning a beaver is different than a case skinned muskrat . After removing the feet and tail...the first cut is about 1/3 up the belly....start peeling this area leaving the leg holes intact. Once past the back legs , wrap a choker around the back hips and case skin the rest. The hide then goes on the fleshing beam cased. When done scraping , finish the center cut …. I'm not going to say its better or faster, but in this part of the country it's commonplace.

Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6493292
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Tried it once to see if they would flesh on the beam easier. Any time saved on fleshing is lost in more time skinning.



Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6493413
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l'll try to ask Groenewold what he prefers. He said he'd gladly do the fleshing and stretching if a person doesn't have time for all that all the time. He just won't buy on the carcass any more in my area. I like to know all my options.

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If your going to skin your beaver and sell them green your going to get about $6.00 to $8.00 for an average sized beaver. With these beaver prices your better off selling green. Or call NAFA they will put up your beaver for you but then your committed to selling them through the auction I believe FHA will also put up your fur at a cost. I use to work for NAFA but I'm not sure what they charge know. I think we use to charge $5.00 to scrape and board. So at those prices you would be better off selling green.


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6493549
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If done properly, Groenewald doesn't care since the end result is the same. I've sold plenty to them....They will look to see if the leg holes are there.

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Most of the seasoned trappers in this area worked for the same fur buyer in the 70's and were trained by him. It's not difficult at all.

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Case skinning isn't at all difficult It's just a lot slower then doing It the conventional way.


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Not if you know how....a little slower...maybe. A lot slower...no

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I used to hunt with a guide in Trurro Nova Scotia named Bill Meekins. He got me into trapping and he case skinned his beavers. He also used a cone shaped horizontal fleshing beam that rotated 360 degrees. As he fleshed an area he spun the beam to expose unfleshed area of hide. After fleshing he cut up the middle of the beaver then board it.


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: cattails] #6493923
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Originally Posted by cattails
Not if you know how....a little slower...maybe. A lot slower...no


Can you do one In less then 7 min?


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6493931
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I've never timed myself...but 7 minutes seems reasonable...Our season ended Friday, so I won't know till next year

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I even tried It on my skinning machine and Its still easier and faster to do It the conventional way.
Are you opening them like a coon so you end up with no leg holes on the rear legs? When you do the test allow for removing the feet and the time it takes to hang that beaver.
And as to fleshing. I have fleshed a lot of beaver and I don't see where fleshing a cased skinned beaver over an open skinned beaver would be any advantage. If your having problems keeping the beaver hide on the beam then your doing It wrong.
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All I can say is... Case skinning is the way several of us were taught. We don't think anything of it. It very well could be a little slower and without a few to skin right now , I can't give an accurate estimate as to how long it takes. I 'm thinking a 20 -30 pounder should take 5 to 7 minutes. A 55 -60 pounder would be 7 to 10 minutes. Since you know how to skin...….I'm gonna have to trust your assessment.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
If your going to skin your beaver and sell them green your going to get about $6.00 to $8.00 for an average sized beaver. With these beaver prices your better off selling green. Or call NAFA they will put up your beaver for you but then your committed to selling them through the auction I believe FHA will also put up your fur at a cost. I use to work for NAFA but I'm not sure what they charge know. I think we use to charge $5.00 to scrape and board. So at those prices you would be better off selling green.
I never knew NAFA would do the skinning for people, if they so choose. Learn something new every day on here.

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I put up fur for them for about 10 years. Me and a buddy did 5000 coon for them one year. $2.50 a coon to scrape and board.


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7 minutes is fast.

I guess I could see pros and cons to both methods.

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The Johnny Thorpe video shows case skinning. He said it was more or less for the novelty business so that there were no holes in the pelt. Still stretched oval & looked better with no foot holes in the pelt.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
The Johnny Thorpe video shows case skinning. He said it was more or less for the novelty business so that there were no holes in the pelt. Still stretched oval & looked better with no foot holes in the pelt.

?????????????^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^????????? Case skinned then stretched oval with no leg holes?


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Re: Case skinning beaver [Re: AJE] #6534885
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No cutting along the legs?

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