I would call red flag laws more gun control

yep.

and for those who complain about NRA's positions...how about starting your OWN pro-2nd organization?

if you can be more effective than the NRA...I'd join your group!

I'll go along with that.

The most I have witnessed is a felon with a weapon during a crime and this is a enhancement to those charges in a Federal Court resulting in another charge or more time depending on how they deal it.

Yep, total bs law. Trump rescinded Obama's law in this area.

Trouble is, t h e liberals keep passing them, Colorado just passed one yesterday. Who's to blame? To many liberals or to many conservatives throwing their vote away, paving the way for these folks to gain control? The NRA fights every one of them, but wouldn't it be better if people used their vote wisely to start with?

And before you say the NRA supports its, they don't. They don't support taking guns away without due process from mentally ill people. Some writeups twist it to say they do, but that's not correct.

It seems the liberals goal is to fatigue both the courts and us with their mindless laws and lawsuits. I think they know going in they'll be overturned on appeal but that doesn't stop them. It's endless harassment until they get what they want.

The electorate is fickle, the majority doesn't have the attention span to see something through. We wouldn't get yanked around like a rag doll every election cycle if they were capable of maintaining a focus.

True Posko. The one Colorado just passed doesn't take effect instill next year. I figure they already figure on court appeals.

[quoteThe NRA fights every one of them][/quote]

Nope. You are mistaken. Chris W. Cox has served as the executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, the political and lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association, since 2002.






This is your hero the duck supporting red flag.

So your saying that the NRA does in fact support gun control in the form of red flag laws, as long as due process is used. You just proved a huge point!

They are talking about due process AFTER your guns are seized. Your neighbor is mad about the color you painted your shed. Calls the sheriff and says every time he tries to talk to you, you run in the house, grab a gun and tell him to mind his own business. Neighbor says he believes you will hurt somebody and swears to it in front of a judge. Judge tells the sheriff to seize all your guns. AFTER they are seized you get to try and prove to the judge your neighbor is a liar and you should get your guns back.

Again if you want to recruit NRA members stop telling people that the NRA is a defender of the 2nd which uses the words "shall not be infringed".

The NRA just like Nancy Pelosi, just like Bernie, just like the duck, ALL want reasonable gun control. They argue about what reasonable is but they all want more gun control not less.

We will continue to lose Second Amendment Rights, until we rest control of the US education system, back from the liberals who brain wash children into mindlessly believing guns are bad. The time is rapidly approaching when there will be more people trained to be terrified of guns, than there are people wanting to legally possess guns. Having the votes, allows the left to create the laws, enforce the laws and judge the legality of the laws that they will destroy the Second Amendment with. Children need to be educated from a very young age, that firearms are a tool necessary for protecting freedom and a high quality, American life.

Keith

Yes catch, that's exactly what I'm saying. No different than you or whiner saying it was a mistake eliminating the mental institutions which you both have. You surely wanted due process before someone was committed to the institution wouldn't ya?

Don't let hypcrocry bite ya.

Nope. You are mistaken. Chris W. Cox has served as the executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action, the political and lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association, since 2002.






This is your hero the duck supporting red flag.



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On the first one, only one I listened to because I know their stance, his second or third sentence he says, "without due process". Now, maybe that's over your head, but that is exactly what I posted!

No hypocrisy on my end. Ask yourself why ANY pro-gun Org would advocate for ANY form of gun control. Can you find where the GOA has said things like this?

Maybe you don't understand the when they said the rights to due process either Catch. In your own words.

In other words more friendly to those who don't understand them, they are saying they are against the red flag laws because of the lack of due process.

Understand now?

(But they do support taking guns once someone is declared bat-crap crazy, same as people who say they were wrong to eliminate mental institutions.)

Due process aside, why does the NRA come out since almost a hundred years now, and advocate for gun control and compromise. Riddle me that lol. If people are mentally ill or whatever, why are they not being recognized through Dr's, family etc instead of using guns and gun control measures. Your not getting that the NRA is all for this form of gun control, and they shouldn't be.

It really boggles my mind that someone would so actively tear down an organization that has been fighting for Second Amendment rights and doing it very successfully for so long.

If you have a problem with the NRA fine. But why come on every single thread where they are mentioned and spread your poison? Why try to dissuade people from supporting what is still the most powerful and effective gun lobby in the nation? Wouldn't your time be much better spent offering positive alternatives that you think could do better than the NRA?

You come off as petty and miserable.

You could put that effort into pointing out some of the good stuff GOA and SAF are doing and there are dozens of other examples.

But you just keep beating that long dead horse don't you.

Pathetic.

No, not aside, that I s a major part!

(Due process)