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Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. #6533588
05/08/19 10:19 AM
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I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533591
05/08/19 10:28 AM
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They used to hang horse thieves.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533631
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Made a person think twice, aye?


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533645
05/08/19 11:26 AM
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I'm sure the shooter was fearing for his life when the thief rammed the car he was driving. wink

Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533689
05/08/19 11:47 AM
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That's nuts. 5:30 pm at a gas/mart I would think there were other folks around.....12 shots fired, two hits....lucky no one else was hit.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: ~ADC~] #6533970
05/08/19 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
I'm sure the shooter was fearing for his life when the thief rammed the car he was driving. wink


Doesn’t matter in any state I know of, the moment they started looking and then confronted the thief they then became the aggressor and it no longer is self defense unless your a law enforcement officer who’s duty it is to apprehend criminals

It’s no different then if you get in a gunfight and put the other person down and out but then walk up and shoot him again as they are laying on the ground, you have lost the right of self defense and have moved into being the aggressor and subject to prosecution for assault if not murder





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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533973
05/08/19 04:23 PM
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I was wondering how long it would be before the car thief became the victim.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6533983
05/08/19 04:32 PM
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here in ks we have citizen arrest laws. stopping a thief is very legal. if that thief puts your life in danger your right to defend yourself is recognized by the government.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534000
05/08/19 04:56 PM
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You really shouldn't deal with a thief in a public place.

Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534020
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reading the story , he was just as justified to shoot as the DC police were a few years ago when they had a woman trying to ram them with her car. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident

and if the court finds otherwise then any time you are boxed in you are then justified to ram the car front and back and endanger others in your getting out.


sounds like the guy was using the car as a weapon.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534197
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I would been scared to try hunt down thief, hard to say if charges be filed, as povereted as law is, it seems like cops stuck up for criminals an wouldn't help u or want to bother with it, I am not a cop lover, always hear on news about cops shooting someone over nothing or mistake or just gun happy

Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534296
05/09/19 05:17 AM
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Curious about how hard these kids tried to involve the police to get their car back?

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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534315
05/09/19 06:31 AM
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If the guy was a LEO it would be justified. That being said and from the information available in this short story, the guy should get off. If it's justifiable for police, it should be just as justifiable for a citizen. whether or not that will happen is anyone's guess.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534346
05/09/19 07:27 AM
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When I took my conceal carry the instructor pretty much told us you can carry anywhere in Nebraska, but I wouldn't attempt to carry in Omaha. They'll find a way to keep your gun. This story seems a little western. They seemed to be playing vigilantes. I'm all about using a weapon to defend yourself but when you go looking for it I'm not so sure. Can they really say their life was in danger when they were still in a vehicle that they had blocked the guy in with? Don't take this as me defending a thief.....his actions started this chain of events, but I'm not sure he needed to be pinned in by two vehicles and shot to death over it.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534347
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If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.

My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: danny clifton] #6534353
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.

My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE.

Danny what would you do if you had two cars pin you in full of men about to whip ya? Lay down and take it? I'm not victim blaming here, but the whole thing seems a little over the top.

Would you feel the same way if the thief felt his life was threatened and dropped 12 shots into the other two cars?

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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: WadeRyan] #6534356
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
Originally Posted by danny clifton
If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.

My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE.

Danny what would you do if you had two cars pin you in full of men about to whip ya? Lay down and take it? I'm not victim blaming here, but the whole thing seems a little over the top.

Would you feel the same way if the thief felt his life was threatened and dropped 12 shots into the other two cars?
Now that would be first degree murder since the thief was in the commission of a crime.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534358
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
I was wondering how long it would be before the car thief became the victim.

I have no time for debate class anymore... It didnt take long did it Gary.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534367
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I don't have much sympathy for thieves.


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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet. [Re: Gary Benson] #6534368
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The thief started this whole chain of events by stealing the car.
The car owners buddies did nothing illegal by searching for the stolen car and by boxing it in at the gas station.
At this point the thief pushed the envelope by attacking the friends using the stolen car as a weapon.
Responding to the thief's attack one of the friends responded by shooting 12 shots of which a couple hit and eventually killed the thief.

I'd say the thief got what was coming to him, he had 2 chances to avoid this both totally in his control. 1 by never stealing the car to start with and 2 by accepting fate when caught for the theft. He chose poorly.

I would say the shooter should have some consequences for his actions. Some kind of training in firearms use so that he'll be a better shot next time.

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