Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
[Re: Gary Benson]
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05/08/19 11:47 AM
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That's nuts. 5:30 pm at a gas/mart I would think there were other folks around.....12 shots fired, two hits....lucky no one else was hit.
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/08/19 04:21 PM
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I'm sure the shooter was fearing for his life when the thief rammed the car he was driving. Doesn’t matter in any state I know of, the moment they started looking and then confronted the thief they then became the aggressor and it no longer is self defense unless your a law enforcement officer who’s duty it is to apprehend criminals It’s no different then if you get in a gunfight and put the other person down and out but then walk up and shoot him again as they are laying on the ground, you have lost the right of self defense and have moved into being the aggressor and subject to prosecution for assault if not murder
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
[Re: Gary Benson]
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05/08/19 04:32 PM
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danny clifton
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here in ks we have citizen arrest laws. stopping a thief is very legal. if that thief puts your life in danger your right to defend yourself is recognized by the government.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 05:17 AM
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Curious about how hard these kids tried to involve the police to get their car back?
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 06:31 AM
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If the guy was a LEO it would be justified. That being said and from the information available in this short story, the guy should get off. If it's justifiable for police, it should be just as justifiable for a citizen. whether or not that will happen is anyone's guess.
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 07:27 AM
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If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.
My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 07:34 AM
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If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.
My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE. Danny what would you do if you had two cars pin you in full of men about to whip ya? Lay down and take it? I'm not victim blaming here, but the whole thing seems a little over the top. Would you feel the same way if the thief felt his life was threatened and dropped 12 shots into the other two cars?
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 07:39 AM
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If somebody is trying to run over or into you with a vehicle your life IS being threatened. doesn't matter whether your a cop or just trying to recover your buddies stolen property.
My wife was in the local gas station convenience store when a man gave the cashier a fake credit card to fill up. He drove off and the cashier saw it was really a fake. My wife followed him while talking on the phone to police dispatch. For about 15 minutes. Dispatcher refused to dispatch an officer telling my wife to quit following. In spite of having the tag number, in spite of two witnesses, in spite of being told where the thief was, nothing was ever done. So I can easy see why the thief in this instance was confronted by non LE. Danny what would you do if you had two cars pin you in full of men about to whip ya? Lay down and take it? I'm not victim blaming here, but the whole thing seems a little over the top. Would you feel the same way if the thief felt his life was threatened and dropped 12 shots into the other two cars? Now that would be first degree murder since the thief was in the commission of a crime.
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Re: Car thief shot in Omaha. No charges yet.
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05/09/19 07:59 AM
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I don't have much sympathy for thieves.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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