BAMM, there it is!!!!

Exactly. MN DNR could have made a very strong case for wolf delisting by exposing the real impact wolf predation is having on calf recruitment to the moose population. Instead they have been content with status quo, hiding behind the existing Federal protection as an excuse not to take any management action. The issue at the Governors level is between sport hunting seasons (which he opposes) or some modest level of control for livestock depredation issues. The topic of significant population reduction measures in the moose zone is not even in the conversation.

Bears likely have a larger impact on moose calf survival.

No federal protection, and the state keeps reducing license numbers.

Possibly, but if there were genuine concern for the declining moose population you have to consider the cumulative effect of both. Predation just does not fit their desired narrative. My point is that they claim Federal protection has their hands tied, but they have done very little to get that protection removed.

....but....but it's Everything else " in print" besides Wolves. Weather, Bears, People... ticks, Deer and their affect. But never Wolves, couldnt be them , Somehow they're "Organic & Natural "

....Like Goldy says, Admit the Real Wolf Numbers!!!

Maybe, just maybe it IS more than just wolves.
Sure wolves kill moose but are wolves ALONE the reason for the decline?
There doesn't have to be just ONE reason.

What if Wolf numbers decline, In response Deer numbers go up and due to that Moose decline further. Seems like a possibility at this point but who knows.

With 1/2 Million deer hunters you can manage deer numbers to any level you want them. That is active wildlife management, not passive observation.

Very true. It would be great to see a "Moose zone" established where management was based boosting Moose in the state. I would be immensely interested to see a county sized zone with few deer and major predator reduction.

If anything is endangered in our state it's the moose, yet they fawn and whine over a wolf boom. As said above, the state is obviously lying about the wolf population numbers and the bear population numbers. Without truthful accounting there is no factual basis for a solution.

I agree, I would love to see a designated moose zone. I would probably never hunt one here, never did in the past either here but I sure do miss seeing those goofballs around my place.

Osky

It’s been about 4 5 years since I’ve physically seen one around here Osky.

We had more than a few moose around here until what I would guess was the mid 90s. I won’t comment for any other region but I would equivocally say the Timberwolf wasn’t the cause of their demise at that time.

Open season on deer in the new moose zone.

Common sense would tell wildlife managers in NE MN fewer deer, wolves and increased timber harvest would help moose numbers. They don't seem concerned though. It's a shame.

I would love to take part in a Minnesota moose hunt some day, only because it would represent a tremendous wildlife management success story to bring them back to sustainable harvest levels again. But I'm really not convinced that is the goal of the management agency.

Steven.
The 90's is when the moose here started to fade away. That is when the wolf population picked up big time. As far as whitetail influence, they have been here since the mid 1800's and the two seemed to do fairly well together.
My private drive is a dead end at the place and is 2 miles long. It comes off a small gravel road. Along my 2 mile drive until the later 90's there was not a time coming in or out you did not spot a moose particularly in the low wet areas and often feeding on the trail in itself. During the early 2000's they started the trimming of bear tags. We have now got so many bears it's crazy. Wolves, well we've beat that explosion to death. I think the the expanding of the two A-team predators is the Biggy here.
As a side note, there are two places well seperate from each other but within 20 miles of me where I could take you tomorrow and we can find some moose. I shake my head when I think of those spots because you wouldn't think it but they are always there. To a point the big dummies have something figured out right..

Osky