My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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KeithC
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I put my coyote, Katie, out on the pole, to go potty and when I went outside about 10 minutes later, she was holding this Native American scraper, that she just dug up, in her mouth. I'll have to give her a treat. The scraper is sharp as a knife and has a spot pecked out for your thumb, that gives you great control of it. I have found a large number of lithic tools on my farm. Keith
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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That's just an old busted rock.
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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That's just an old busted rock. Possibly, but I don't think so. I have found a whole lot of expert confirmed Native American tools here, not 150 feet from where this one was and this flint like rock is almost non-existent here. As best as I can tell, it took at least 9 impacts to shape it. Keith
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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It is just a naturally formed rock.
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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I see no worked edge, looks like a rock This.
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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Well ain't you all a bunch of optimists !
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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I have actually dryscraped two hides with stone tools. Fleshing is easy, just throw it over a smooth log and use a bone with an edge on it. Dry scraping is a different story. You need a really thin working edge and not a point. Having it well knapped isnt just for looks, if you don't have a fairly smooth fine edge it's not going to work well. I'm not a knapper, but all those look to me like they're going to score the hide too much.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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danny clifton
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well somebody took the time to knap my rock quite a bit. what do you think it was used for?
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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Just a broken rock in my opinion.
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Re: My coyote just gave me a Native American scraper
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I believe a flake was used for butchering also. Bunch of women working to get some fresh killed buffalo cut up, a nice piece of granite for a hammerstone and a chunk or two of chert lying handy. Flake breaks or gets dull just knock off another one. I bet those flakes got reworked after they were done into other tools and points.
Cutting up a dead animal in warm weather today it has to get done right now and we have refrigerators and walk in coolers to put meat in after its cut off the animal.
I could see those bifaces being traded and even just wrapped up in something and stored till needed. Half dozen men travel a hundred miles (or more) to a good rock mine. Spend a couple days gathering, a biface would insure you had a good piece of rock without faults in it. Gather up a bunch of stone, knap out bifaces and carry only them back with you would make a lot of sense.
Want to convince an important man at the spring gathering of tribes his daughter ought to be your wife, I bet a leather bag full of bifaces would go a long way to getting in his good graces.
I think they were used for fleshing also. Big buffalo hide or deer or antelope carefully staked down on the ground. Seems like they would be a good fleshing tool. I'm not saying nothing got fleshed by being draped over a log or whatever either. That same flake might be best then. One thing I am sure of is that hide preparation and tanning was a never ending chore for indian women. A life outdoors with leather being used for everything a person would go through a lot of it. I bet a nice tanned deer hide was a valuable trade item also.
A woman that had a biface that fit her hand particularly well and her husband didn't get it back . Still today most guys have sharp side and a dull side on a fleshing knife.
I bet some of those bifaces were made by women while butchering. Flakes knocked off as needed and biface or scrapper finished up when it was worked down enough and everything else was done.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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