Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: warrior]
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06/18/19 12:53 PM
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And I would opine only fools with money to burn buy new. Even if you can afford to, let some other fool take the hit driving it off the lot. A couple, three year old vehicles in perfect condition are easily found for way less. No disrespect to "warrior" but I buy new and IMO that is least costly way. My 2007 is setting in the driveway with about 195,000 miles on it. Everything works as it should and it is ready for another fall hunting & trapping. My newer 2018 with about 7000 miles is also there and it is ready to replace the '07 when needed. I've looked at the numbers many many times and have owned lots of trucks. Buying new and running them forever is the least costly method for me. BTW, save and buy what you afford do not make payments. For BOCO, next time you need a truck bring your money over to me in the US of A and I'll sell you a truck with pretty much everything on it for a lot less then $100,000. I would have a hard time finding a truck for over $45,000 out the door price (list about $55,000). No diesel needed all they do is cost more and make more noise. FWIW I have had three diesels.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Killbuck]
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06/18/19 12:56 PM
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i miss my old '97 cheyenne, 350 stick, could go anywhere. AND I could reach into the pickup bed to get things out of it. I need a replacement truck(I did not say NEW) that is useful.......jk
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: ShawneeMan]
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06/18/19 12:57 PM
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I'd admit all the "goodies" are nice - when they work! The more fancy bells and whistles - the more chance stuff will break and cost big $$ to get fixed... I miss my old vent windows... and I refuse to pay more for a truck that I did for my house. Buy chevys, my '07 with pretty much everything & 195,000 miles just passed PA inspection after we replaced a fog light. Everything works as it should.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Finster]
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06/18/19 01:25 PM
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Canadian money isn't worth as much as USA money. Nothing in Canada is worth as much Raptors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: ebsurveyor]
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06/18/19 01:41 PM
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And I would opine only fools with money to burn buy new. Even if you can afford to, let some other fool take the hit driving it off the lot. A couple, three year old vehicles in perfect condition are easily found for way less. No disrespect to "warrior" but I buy new and IMO that is least costly way. My 2007 is setting in the driveway with about 195,000 miles on it. Everything works as it should and it is ready for another fall hunting & trapping. My newer 2018 with about 7000 miles is also there and it is ready to replace the '07 when needed. I've looked at the numbers many many times and have owned lots of trucks. Buying new and running them forever is the least costly method for me. BTW, save and buy what you afford do not make payments. For BOCO, next time you need a truck bring your money over to me in the US of A and I'll sell you a truck with pretty much everything on it for a lot less then $100,000. I would have a hard time finding a truck for over $45,000 out the door price (list about $55,000). No diesel needed all they do is cost more and make more noise. FWIW I have had three diesels. My 2007 that I paid cash for as a two year old with 40k on the odometer and still under warranty is also sitting in the driveway. Unfortunately with a busted transmission though it did make it to 252k. Paid 20k for it. Currently shopping for its replacement. There's a deal out there if you're willing to be patient. Most folks can't go 48 hours without wheels and sign on the line in a panic.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Killbuck]
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06/18/19 01:52 PM
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First new vehicle for me was in 88. Owned about 15 or so since then.Only one of them was used and I regretted that buy.I keep the ones I like for 10 or more years,and some I have sold after 5 or so and bought new again. I look after stuff and keep it well maintained-always sold my used vehicles for real good money.I would never trade in to a dealer-get way more for a good vehicle private sale.I always pay to get them detailed and after hanging a sale sign they sell in a few days.People like used vehicles that look new. Last one I sold was my 03 ford f-150 with 300 km on it for $6500.00.Think I paid around $25,000 for it in 03. Bought the brand new 2017 for $40,000. WAY cheaper to buy new. And the new vehicles are 10 times more reliable than the older ones.I have owned a LOT of vehicles in my life and I know of which I speak. One other thing-Only a couple times I have taken a loan to buy a vehicle,and then it was for a short term and only for about 1\4 of the cost of the vehicle.Other than that when I was starting out,I have made payments to myself and bought new vehicles cash.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Boco]
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06/18/19 02:45 PM
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First new vehicle for me was in 88. Owned about 15 or so since then.Only one of them was used and I regretted that buy.I keep the ones I like for 10 or more years,and some I have sold after 5 or so and bought new again. I look after stuff and keep it well maintained-always sold my used vehicles for real good money.I would never trade in to a dealer-get way more for a good vehicle private sale.I always pay to get them detailed and after hanging a sale sign they sell in a few days.People like used vehicles that look new. Last one I sold was my 03 ford f-150 with 300 km on it for $6500.00.Think I paid around $25,000 for it in 03. Bought the brand new 2017 for $40,000. WAY cheaper to buy new. And the new vehicles are 10 times more reliable than the older ones.I have owned a LOT of vehicles in my life and I know of which I speak. One other thing-Only a couple times I have taken a loan to buy a vehicle,and then it was for a short term and only for about 1\4 of the cost of the vehicle.Other than that when I was starting out,I have made payments to myself and bought new vehicles cash. Your math does not add up. Buying 15 new vehicles over 31 years would give you a new vehicle about every two years. Not every 5-10 years, unless I am missing something.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: warrior]
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06/18/19 02:55 PM
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And I would opine only fools with money to burn buy new. Even if you can afford to, let some other fool take the hit driving it off the lot. A couple, three year old vehicles in perfect condition are easily found for way less. Even after one year, the price drops drastically. I bought a 2018 Chev with 19,000 miles on it for $14,000 below its sticker price of over $40,000 and it runs perfectly. IMO, there are two ways to look at buying a slightly used vehicle. First, you could be buying someone else's problems. Or, all the bugs have been worked out before you buy it. In my case, the latter seems to be true.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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06/18/19 02:57 PM
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First new vehicle for me was in 88. Owned about 15 or so since then.Only one of them was used and I regretted that buy.I keep the ones I like for 10 or more years,and some I have sold after 5 or so and bought new again. I look after stuff and keep it well maintained-always sold my used vehicles for real good money.I would never trade in to a dealer-get way more for a good vehicle private sale.I always pay to get them detailed and after hanging a sale sign they sell in a few days.People like used vehicles that look new. Last one I sold was my 03 ford f-150 with 300 km on it for $6500.00.Think I paid around $25,000 for it in 03. Bought the brand new 2017 for $40,000. WAY cheaper to buy new. And the new vehicles are 10 times more reliable than the older ones.I have owned a LOT of vehicles in my life and I know of which I speak. One other thing-Only a couple times I have taken a loan to buy a vehicle,and then it was for a short term and only for about 1\4 of the cost of the vehicle.Other than that when I was starting out,I have made payments to myself and bought new vehicles cash. Your math does not add up. Buying 15 new vehicles over 31 years would give you a new vehicle about every two years. Not every 5-10 years, unless I am missing something. Lol was my thoughts exactly
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Boco]
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06/18/19 02:58 PM
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First new vehicle for me was in 88. Owned about 15 or so since then.Only one of them was used and I regretted that buy.I keep the ones I like for 10 or more years,and some I have sold after 5 or so and bought new again. I look after stuff and keep it well maintained-always sold my used vehicles for real good money.I would never trade in to a dealer-get way more for a good vehicle private sale.I always pay to get them detailed and after hanging a sale sign they sell in a few days.People like used vehicles that look new. Last one I sold was my 03 ford f-150 with 300 km on it for $6500.00.Think I paid around $25,000 for it in 03. Bought the brand new 2017 for $40,000. WAY cheaper to buy new. And the new vehicles are 10 times more reliable than the older ones.I have owned a LOT of vehicles in my life and I know of which I speak. One other thing-Only a couple times I have taken a loan to buy a vehicle,and then it was for a short term and only for about 1\4 of the cost of the vehicle.Other than that when I was starting out,I have made payments to myself and bought new vehicles cash. That's crazy! I know a guy who has only had 4 trucks since 85 all used. Never paid over 14 for any one of them. If you keep them maintained well and dont abuse them. Used trucks last 5 or 6 years here easily. Stuff must not be well made in Canada. I paid 1500 for the 99 GMC I have now with 130,000 on it and it's been a good truck I have had it for 2 years so far. If it went down tomarrow it has severed it purpose.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Killbuck]
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06/18/19 03:02 PM
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I buy 10yr old Toyotas with 100,000 miles. A lil front end work an change oil regularly and sell them at 200,000 an only lose 2000$ from purchase price. I can't afford to drive supposedly American made vechicles they will nickle and dime you to death if not under warranty. Granted I have no need for a 1 ton work vechicle (borrow one from work If need) that's the only reason I can see buying Ford or chevy
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Jerry Jr.]
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06/18/19 03:14 PM
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First new vehicle for me was in 88. Owned about 15 or so since then.Only one of them was used and I regretted that buy.I keep the ones I like for 10 or more years,and some I have sold after 5 or so and bought new again. I look after stuff and keep it well maintained-always sold my used vehicles for real good money.I would never trade in to a dealer-get way more for a good vehicle private sale.I always pay to get them detailed and after hanging a sale sign they sell in a few days.People like used vehicles that look new. Last one I sold was my 03 ford f-150 with 300 km on it for $6500.00.Think I paid around $25,000 for it in 03. Bought the brand new 2017 for $40,000. WAY cheaper to buy new. And the new vehicles are 10 times more reliable than the older ones.I have owned a LOT of vehicles in my life and I know of which I speak. One other thing-Only a couple times I have taken a loan to buy a vehicle,and then it was for a short term and only for about 1\4 of the cost of the vehicle.Other than that when I was starting out,I have made payments to myself and bought new vehicles cash. Your math does not add up. Buying 15 new vehicles over 31 years would give you a new vehicle about every two years. Not every 5-10 years, unless I am missing something. Yea, I got the same math. At an average of 30000 a vehicle that's a lot of beaver pelts......
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Trapper7]
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06/18/19 05:15 PM
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And I would opine only fools with money to burn buy new. Even if you can afford to, let some other fool take the hit driving it off the lot. A couple, three year old vehicles in perfect condition are easily found for way less. Even after one year, the price drops drastically. I bought a 2018 Chev with 19,000 miles on it for $14,000 below its sticker price of over $40,000 and it runs perfectly. IMO, there are two ways to look at buying a slightly used vehicle. First, you could be buying someone else's problems. Or, all the bugs have been worked out before you buy it. In my case, the latter seems to be true. I bought my 2018 Chevy new in December of 2018 for about $10,000 below its sticker price. Don't remember the exact numbers, Z71 crew cab. For me the used stuff is to high priced. I should have waited. Now they have a new 2018 at $10,759 below sticker. BTW, when you go in with a check book you can always do a few hundred better. First new truck 1977. https://www.quigleychevrolet.com/VehicleDetails/new-2018-Chevrolet-Silverado_1500-Crew_Cab_Short_Box_4_Wheel_Drive_LT_Z71-Bally-PA/3364816533?cs:o=248748860 Click this
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Killbuck]
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06/18/19 05:33 PM
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bought my first "new" truck in 2015 gmc sierra...…….no regrets will never go back to used. To the OP...…..congrats on your new purchase.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Killbuck]
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06/18/19 06:17 PM
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Guess I should have clarified I usually have 2 vehicles at any one time and the wife has one. Just bought the wife a new Toyota rav,and gave her 13 honda crv to out daughter. Just gave my 09 ranger to my son. Now we only have 2 new vehicles at home now,my 17 f-150 and the 19 rav. I'll probably buy a new one next year(maybe a Tacoma or one of the new rangers) and keep the old 17 for trapping.I pretty much have 2 of everything.
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Boco]
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06/18/19 06:37 PM
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Guess I should have clarified I usually have 2 vehicles at any one time and the wife has one. Just bought the wife a new Toyota rav,and gave her 13 honda crv to out daughter. Just gave my 09 ranger to my son. Now we only have 2 new vehicles at home now,my 17 f-150 and the 19 rav. I'll probably buy a new one next year(maybe a Tacoma or one of the new rangers) and keep the old 17 for trapping.I pretty much have 2 of everything. How far apart do you keep your two wives?
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Re: $50500.00 U joint
[Re: Finster]
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06/18/19 10:03 PM
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A new wife might have been cheaper. I'm venturing a wild guess that you have never been to divorce court. Killbuck got off easy.
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