Folks with heel spurs will be same no matter if we start something or not. And you can bet that no Trump, nor congressman or senator, will have to worry about their kid being delivered back to them in a bag.

Not a factual statement.

Yet out own government strips us our rights little by little and people want to fight other countries. Our country is great because the people. Our government can go fight it's own wars.[/quote]


Our govt. Is consisted of who was voted in. Bad choices make bad decisions for us. On 911 did they attack our govt.? No, the attacked innocent people. Do you think it won't happen again? I hope not but I know a strong military is needed.

HobbieTrapper----I have words for your reply to my comments but it isn't allowed on this forum. You completely twisted what I was saying. And it sure as HE double hockey sticks ain't going to snow out my door any time soon.

In World War II we (the allies) defeated both German and Japan with total surrender and rebuilt those countries and others under the Marshall Plan. Lobbing a few cruise missiles from the gulf or drone attacks on chemical and weapon plants that turn out to really be schools and hospitals and calling it a day is not the same thing. Occupying a nation of religious radicals is not the same thing.

Yes, they sign up willingly, so can I stop thanking them for their service and giving them free lunches on veterans day and giving them discounts ? I mean I've worked in very dangerous heavy industry , where people were maimed and killed. It was a job I "signed up for", so thank me for my service too, right ? Everyone uses steel and aluminum, where's my discount ?

My daughter signed up to protect the constitution and defend America from all enemies foreign and domestic. NOT police the world or be a pawn in a political "game" or to boost the stock for corporations and so on. So to be clear, our track record of misinformation leading to war is not good; remember the WMD in Iraq ? Heck, even the Gulf of Tokin . What part is Israel playing in all this ? Not like you can fake proof of anything. Are we all done in Afghanistan and Iraq and ready for something new ? If so I'll let my nephew know he can come home.

So we should go ahead and invade China, Russia, and North Korea too ? I mean why wait, might as well make it a world war since everyone has forgot how great those are. Who is the enemy around me ? The people who are trying to take my rights away every day ? The meth heads that steal and rob ? the street gangs ?

I hope you all get your war, and enjoy the taste of ashes.

Regime change without a massive military strike would be ideal but the MIC would not make $ from that and it is against international law. However if you go in militarily and kill millions of civilians and military, devastate the country, wind up with your own dead and maimed soldiers, international law is OK with that......definitely a screwed up situation. Simplest solution is a regime change in Iran that leaves the country with no muslim radicals in charge.


War is big business.....the lead up to Iraq 2.0 was a media propaganda campaign that worked. Phil Donahue had the #1 tv show at the time and questioned the lead up to war and he was cancelled immediately. Hopefully Mr. Trump keeps us out of a war while accomplishing what is best for the USA.

They're already here...

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I hope you all get your war, and enjoy the taste of ashes.



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I hope you don't mind when your family members are killed by imported terrorists.

And a war with Iran will stop this from happening ? My family members have a higher chance of being killed by a text and drive millennial or a over medicated teenager with a shotgun than your "imported terrorists " or what ever boogeyman lives under your bed.

Isn't it time for you to go watch Red Dawn again ? Cause we all know the Soviets are going to invade and occupy the US. Wolverines !!!!!!!!!!!

I don't watch TV or movies. They're actors pretending to be somebody they're not.
911 was a boogeyman! Interesting. You go live in your liberal utopia.

Why would we invade them? They have Nukes but have proven they can behave themselves for the most part. They aren’t promoting the extermination of any nations or its citizens.

Wonder where we would be if our military had told Thomas J to pack sand when he sent them after pirates half a world away, after all they weren’t bothering them.

I’m lost on the steel discount comment. Didn’t see anything in the quote that pertain to that.

Pretty much accurate but you missed my point. What affect do you think 100-140 dollar oil will have on our economy ? Remember 2008 ????????

Coon hides would sell again.

Well said Marty.

Mike

Here, here!!!

Ken, higher oil prices oil prices could surely have an effect on the economy but are you suggesting the short oil spike summer of 08 lead to the recessjon?

The one thing I'm concerned with and the question has already been posted earlier in this thread. Is that and why?: Are is Iran so trigger happy in picking a fight that is no doubt unwinnable? They know we have to reply in some form! It seems that they want us to reply with force? Why? We need to and have to reply! We can't let them continue to shoot our equipment, destroy oil tankers, commit acts of terror, nor attack other countries! It's simple!!!!! We have to stop them! But what is their strategy and logic in provoking us to wrath?

Figure that out 1st, come up with plan, then smoke the idiots! Don't act in haste.

I'd like to know how bad Trump was about to mess them up before he called off attack.

I think he was on his way to ending them. Why did he call it off?

I'm so curious!

No. My point is than any increase in energy costs is a tax on society everywhere. Money spent putting gas in your car is money that can't be spent on other items. It certainly COULD cause a slowdown in the world economy if it lasted long enough.

The one thing that is usually true is that...the solution for high prices ( for anything) is high prices.

My reference to 2008 is that is when oil hit 143 a barrel.

If Trump doesn’t do anything about it, Iran is gonna step it up a notch and their next move won’t be so funny for you guys.

LOL If anything this has been entertaining to say the least. "liberal utopia " lmao ! oh man that's a good one. Spit my coffee on that one.