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Beaver tail oil #6567229
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I'm in the process of getting some tails to make some oil..
I've noticed most use a gallon or so jar and fill them up..

My question is..I'm probably running low on time to make any oil here in Michigan
would it be a quicker process to get the oil if one was to fill the jars up with less chopped
up tails vs filling the whole jar? Just thinking less volume in the jar would create more heat
and quicken the process..I'm probably way off on this thought..


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6567252
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I would cut tails into small pieces as they break down faster than larger ones. A larger jar will take longer to warm up but the mass will cook better. Southern exposure on a black surface will speed things up for you and you should be able to get a fair amount made yet this summer.


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using a $2 electric carving knife from the thrift store,
I fill about 2/3 so there is room to work/remove oil
cut into the bone, about 1" apart, then zoom down the bone/red line and the chunks fall right into the bucket
keep the bone sections and freeze until season, then bury or pin in a large dirt hole set.
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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6567600
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Good info thanks
Slick way of removing the meat traprjohn


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6567927
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grinding them is the fastest way to get oil to render but it takes a very good grinder to handle them! lol I burnt up a half hrs motor grinding them


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6567945
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Smaller containers will generate at an accelerated rate vs a bucket/barrel etc. They will solarize faster and yield oil faster as well. It does depend upon your solar index where you live as to how cool your nights get. Each night your containers cool off thus loosing work production of the oil. Then it has to heat up again on the next solar heat of each day. If you can keep your container on a black top or an area that retains heat you can cover the container at night with an old rug or blanket to preserve the heat and reduce the heat loss of your container. Over time this practice speeds things up.

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Thanks Bob
Great info


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6568910
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Can the container be fairly air tight? Cheese cloth but pretty tight? Dumb question but want to avoid explosions.. lol

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Fats don't gas nearly as bad as meats nor do they swell I fill my bto jars to the top packed in. In a week of high temps they will have reduced by a inch. I don't even vent my bto jars I just burp them once a week. I find the pure oil will gas more then the tail chunks ive lost bottles of bto due to explosion but never a rendering jar


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: Bob Jameson] #6569009
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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
Smaller containers will generate at an accelerated rate vs a bucket/barrel etc. They will solarize faster and yield oil faster as well. It does depend upon your solar index where you live as to how cool your nights get. Each night your containers cool off thus loosing work production of the oil. Then it has to heat up again on the next solar heat of each day. If you can keep your container on a black top or an area that retains heat you can cover the container at night with an old rug or blanket to preserve the heat and reduce the heat loss of your container. Over time this practice speeds things up.



Let's see how about up in Greenland where the temperatures arrive cooler and settle cooler mostly year around ?? LOL

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Thanks for the info.

Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: TONY.F] #6569076
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Originally Posted by TONY.F
Fats don't gas nearly as bad as meats nor do they swell I fill my bto jars to the top packed in. In a week of high temps they will have reduced by a inch. I don't even vent my bto jars I just burp them once a week. I find the pure oil will gas more then the tail chunks ive lost bottles of bto due to explosion but never a rendering jar



I was gonna try making some this year and bought some tails to get it going. I’m about to be gone for a month and didn’t get my fur she’d finished before I go. My only choice now, I thought, was going to be making it in a vented container while I’m gone in the garage.

Are you saying you’ll pack them into regular mason jars - quart sized, I’m guessing - sealed down where the aroma wouldn’t leak out and then just crack them once a week to bleed the pressure? If so, I could probably use this method to make some without it resulting in a divorce. Just leave them in the garage and ask my wife to burp them once a week while I’m gone...

Thoughts?

Alternatively, I have a plastic container I’d planned to use with a brewing airlock on the top. I was going to leave it out in the driveway but didn’t want it to be attracting animals while I was gone.

Thanks for the information...


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6569204
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to each there own I prefer gallon glass jars old pickle jars make up the vast majority of my jars. But ive rendered it in many different sizes to me the gallons give a bigger surface area to work with when its time to draw some off. As well as the black surface oil adds heat to contents. I've just recently started spray painting my jars black on hot days they get hard to handle. To me this puts rendering into turbo. As some have stated a modified hot box like a green house or abandoned car. Would be the safest and quickest way to achive consistent results. A old car that seals tight a guy could leave lids loose and not worry about flys.Honestly flys don't worry me as much as critters! I've forgot to lid containers for 24 hrs and never got a maggot but it already started making oil! Before that time frame id be scared of flys . Once it stars making oil I leave all my lids loose. You still got time to get some oil maybe not a huge amount . but enough to see if its rite for you and your line. I'm starting to believe bto is a regional thing ! some love it others say it don't work.Honestly I think it works best in places with a low beaver population. I find for me it works best away from water.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6569798
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Just put about 1/2 gallon of tails cut into 1” x 2” chunks into a 3 gallon clear container in my driveway. Pushed up about 8”-10” of gravel around it to hopefully hold some heat when the temps cool off each night.

Curious what you guys think this setup might yield and how quickly...

Not looking to make a ton and not hoping to sell any, just hoping to get a couple ounces to use this season.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6569821
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If you can get or paint a bucket black and set it over your container that may hold the heat better and will give you an oven effect. Gravel may add a cooling effect I am afraid after it cools down into the night. Try it for a while and if the stone is still somewhat warm in the morning then you may be fine.

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I’ll give that a whirl - that gravel was really hot even after the air cooled off a bit.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: DucksandDogs] #6569989
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Depending upon what the weather is like, you could see some forming in a few weeks or so. I drained some off after two weeks and it's still making more.


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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: DucksandDogs] #6570952
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Originally Posted by DucksandDogs
I’d planned to use with a brewing airlock on the top. ..


those are higher maintenance, even when guys use glycerin instead of water, consider lowest maintenance using an aquarium air stone epoxied in place.
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I wrap a twine around the top of the jar before screwing the lid on. Just make sure not to screw the lid on too tight as to prevent gasses from escaping but still keep the bugs out.

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Re: Beaver tail oil [Re: ambush32] #6571028
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I’m not keeping it full of water - just have the S lock installed with the cap on it so the gas can vent but flies can’t get in.


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