13 hours Bengazi
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Anybody watch that the other day supposed to be the true story but seemed out of whack from the original stories. Did not know the main fight was at a CIA compound location a few miles away and not the US embassy. Nothing was said about Hillary through the whole movie so that was suspect.
The did say the Americans never came during the deal and the help that did come had disobeyed orders to do so, they came from the CIA compound to help out the embassy. The Diplomat Stevens was lost in the fire and was thought to of died from smoke inhalation, they were not sure if the Libyan's were trying to save him or not.
Everyone had a gun and nobody knew who was who most of the time friend or foe.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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I watched it a while back. Still makes me sick when I think about it. American help was not allowed.
No Jab.
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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I have watched it twice. Procedure was NORMAL bureaucratic BS.
Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers
"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction." "After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Amazing what 6 well trained guys can do when needed~
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Amazing what 6 well trained guys can do when needed~ Absolutely. 6 bad donkeys for sure.
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Amazing what 6 well trained guys can do when needed~ Absolutely. 6 bad donkeys for sure. Could not believe all them CIA types in the building and they stayed away from the fight!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Ambassador Stevens was a known homosexual sent into a radical Islamic situation. That should never have been allowed. As far as his presence at Benghazi, it was to retrieve the weapons which were flowing into Syria, via Turkey to the Obama's ISIS groups there.
No one asks why the Americans were told to stand down. The answer is in the focused reports in the factions of Benghazi in there was a group which intended on assassinating the Ambassador and the second group which had no intention on saving him, but was in the process of kidnapping him. That is another story why an American administration would send in an Ambassador, who was meeting with Senator John McCain, with not any protection when things went south. It has to do with his kidnapping. Stevens was not supposed to be rescued that night.
As far as standing down, the Americans did that too in watching the leader of Libya in Ghadaffi with 5 of his loyalists hunted down, abused and murdered. Americans were observing that event, which was under French CIA direction as Ghadaffi was being removed by the president of France, Sarkozy, to gain control with British Petroleum over the deep water oil there from the Italians and Russians.
What was most interesting was the reported aftermath of the assassination of Stevens, in a few stories appeared in an American jet landed the next morning, and several members of what is said was Delta Force disembarked and shot the assassins. The reports which I reviewed recorded that some were double tapped and some single. The double is a signature of the military and single points to a civilian agency. They accomplished their work and left and nothing more was ever said about this, and Benghazi has been covered up, but the entire story is there if you piece together the information.
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Amazing what 6 well trained guys can do when needed~ They would have won with just a little help!
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Not all CIA operatives are trained to handle the situation that developed. few to that serious a degree. Advanced military and or private contractors who generally graduate thru advanced military programs are the go to.
Osky
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Osky do you think if any of the operatives there would've picked up arms it would've helped? No doubt about those 6 there did the best they could do and they held their own well. The reason I ask is because almost everytime I've watched the movie I've asked myself that question and can't come to a solid conclusion one way or the other.
Last edited by adam m; 07/09/19 12:35 AM. Reason: Stupid phone put wrong words
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Re: 13 hours Bengazi
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Osky do you think if any of the operatives there would've picked up arms it would've helped? No doubt about those 6 there did the best they could do and they held their own well. The reason I ask is because almost everyone I've watched the movie I've alread myself that question and can't come to a solid conclusion one way or the other. No. I think the men worth having arms had them. CIA guys are worthless in that situation, I don't think any of them could have properly called in and guided a support mission. I have not seen any movie on this incident, I know some things thru two sources who were still involved at that time, however neither was first hand witness. Also at that time my son was stationed in that theatre flying for the Air Force. He was extremely angry with the stand down orders. There were aircraft aware and in the air very near as that was happening, did your movie note that? From what I have been told from those three sources, there was no reason for this to have happened or at least ended this way. I think the ambassador was a sacrificial lamb. The entire clandestine gun running to the bad guys had become a mess and the ambassador had been sounding the alarm. Who would be handling this kind of secret op but the CIA of course, the same guys who were all to happy to watch the ambassador go down. I have read that to this day the President was in the operations room watching for only the first 45 minutes or so as it unfolded of the basically 7 hour duration. To this day he has not been accounted for or why he left operations. Despicable. Osky
"A womans heart is the hardest rock the Almighty has put on this earth, and I can find no sign on it" Jabless in Minnesota www.SureDockusa.com
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