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Electrical question Reset button #6572503
07/12/19 12:26 PM
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This is the thermal breaker reset for the motor on my table saw. It's bad (has happened before) but they are obsolete these days. I can't buy one anywhere. Can someone on here tell me what all of the markings on this mean so I can try to find a replacement that may work. I have two pictures, one is a negative to make it easier to see the numbers. Naturally, the numbers are backwards because of the camera.


The reset reads : M-9005Q then the numbers 6-65-10 and 5-0-0-F


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572517
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Got same problem on craftsman radial saw my fix was a inline 125 v fuse, can't remember now but maybe 5 amp. You could also use one of those old sockets for light bulb and use a old screw in fuse which are getting hard to find, you'll have to run it thru a plugin.
Don't run a saw without a breaker of some kind, if you get hung up something else will give and it might be you.
You can also get those resets from china on ebay but I didn't want to way 6-8 weeks.

Don't trust me on the amp was just giving you an idea for a fix.

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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Foxpaw] #6572532
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Got same problem on craftsman radial saw my fix was a inline 125 v fuse, can't remember now but maybe 5 amp. You could also use one of those old sockets for light bulb and use a old screw in fuse which are getting hard to find, you'll have to run it thru a plugin.
Don't run a saw without a breaker of some kind, if you get hung up something else will give and it might be you.
You can also get those resets from china on ebay but I didn't want to way 6-8 weeks.

Don't trust me on the amp was just giving you an idea for a fix.

I didn't see them on eBay and I looked. Have a link?


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572548
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That's been a year or more ago, I will look.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572566
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All I see that you could easily hook onto are 12v. I know they was on there but don't see any other than the 2 prongs that won't work without the part they stick into. Have you jumped around it to know for sure its the rest button?

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572568
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I will try a search on past sales.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Foxpaw] #6572569
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
All I see that you could easily hook onto are 12v. I know they was on there but don't see any other than the 2 prongs that won't work without the part they stick into. Have you jumped around it to know for sure its the rest button?

Yup, I've gone through this before. The button will reset but as soon as I put much load on the saw, it pops. I have replaced it twice before and it lasts a couple years. Had I known they were going to be obsolete, I would have bought 10 of them.


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572581
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reset

Here is an addy you probably going to have to copy paste. This one is 5,10,15,or 20amp.
I'm to take my button out and see what it looks like.
I have like 20 harddrives with all I did last year that has my history on them, but finding it. I remember it was cold.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572584
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Are you running on a long extension cord?
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Are you running on a long extension cord?
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Nope


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Foxpaw] #6572591
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
reset

Here is an addy you probably going to have to copy paste. This one is 5,10,15,or 20amp.
I'm to take my button out and see what it looks like.
I have like 20 harddrives with all I did last year that has my history on them, but finding it. I remember it was cold.

Saw that one but it won't work. Mine has 3 poles.


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572596
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Originally Posted by Finster
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
reset

Here is an addy you probably going to have to copy paste. This one is 5,10,15,or 20amp.
I'm to take my button out and see what it looks like.
I have like 20 harddrives with all I did last year that has my history on them, but finding it. I remember it was cold.

Saw that one but it won't work. Mine has 3 poles.


I know they had them them with 3 poles and had screws to attach. I cut the 2 black wires and hooked together with an inline fuse.
And I still going to look.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572599
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Do you have a shop in your area that works/repairs electric motors? They might have some spare parts laying around?
I had similar problems with my table saw. General Brand. I took the overload switch off and went to the shop. He had an entire box full of different models and configurations. Non of which were the same as mine. While I was searching through the hundreds that he had there, he disassembled mine and cleaned up the connections of all the ultra fine sawdust and had it working again in 15 minutes. That was 4 years ago and still working.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Foxpaw] #6572603
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw

I know they had them them with 3 poles and had screws to attach. I cut the 2 black wires and hooked together with an inline fuse.
And I still going to look.

Actually, Mine might only have two poles now that I think about it. I'll have to take it out in the morning and figure it out. It's a 3hp motor so I assume it will be 20amp. Guess I could look on the motor if I can see the plate.


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: handitrapper] #6572604
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Originally Posted by handitrapper
Do you have a shop in your area that works/repairs electric motors? They might have some spare parts laying around?
I had similar problems with my table saw. General Brand. I took the overload switch off and went to the shop. He had an entire box full of different models and configurations. Non of which were the same as mine. While I was searching through the hundreds that he had there, he disassembled mine and cleaned up the connections of all the ultra fine sawdust and had it working again in 15 minutes. That was 4 years ago and still working.

Good to know about the sawdust. I'm afraid to take it apart though with no replacement I believe it's sealed.


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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572607
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Nothing to be afraid of…I learned that you can’t break something that’s already broke.

Not saying for sure it will fix your problem, but you would be surprised what a good blow job will do for a saw motor. Try using an air compressor to blow out the entire motor. Like handitrapper says, the overload is likely full of fine sawdust. Also, don't be afraid to take the end bells off and blow out the winding. While you’re in there, might consider slipping out the rotor and putting on new bearings. All these things will put less load on the motor when it’s under stress….less likely to trip the overload.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572613
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My has 2 polls with black wires and 1 with a blue and red. If you jump (assuming yours is like mine) the two black wires with the switch on, if its the reset that's bad it should run. Hope fully if we keep this to the top an electrician will see this and help with a work around thatss safe.

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If its in the motor the reset would still pop out when it cooled off if its any good.

I got to let this rest for awhile. Can't understand why the shortage of reset buttons. I know craftsman didn't make them.

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Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Finster] #6572636
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Thanks Finster Because of you I got mine working. I can get pictures off my camera on here but it stresses me out. lol. My reset is a sealed deal all wires are solder on it, but right in the middle of the back is a small bolt(i mean small) I figured I was going to gut it so I could tell you what was inside. I turned that little nut with a pair of needle noses about 1/2 turn and I heard the reset pop out. put back together, unhooked by jumper wire with fuse that ran it a year. Turned switch on and it took off.

Re: Electrical question Reset button [Re: Foxpaw] #6572641
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Thanks Finster Because of you I got mine working. I can get pictures off my camera on here but it stresses me out. lol. My reset is a sealed deal all wires are solder on it, but right in the middle of the back is a small bolt(i mean small) I figured I was going to gut it so I could tell you what was inside. I turned that little nut with a pair of needle noses about 1/2 turn and I heard the reset pop out. put back together, unhooked by jumper wire with fuse that ran it a year. Turned switch on and it took off.

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They should just pop apart using a small blade screwdriver. At least mine did. Use a shop-vac to clean as much of the sawdust on or in the motor and windings as possible. Using compressed air can push the dust in more.

FWIW; mine didn’t want to reset or stay reset

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Finster I have good luck getting parts like that from ereacementparts.com. Can you read the motor name plate model and serial number, voltage and Full Load Amps (FLA).


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Also check the capacitors to be sure that they aren’t going bad. Causing more amperage for motor startups

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