Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Pad Catch]
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07/21/19 04:35 PM
07/21/19 04:35 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,084 MO
cfowler
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trapper
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MO
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The biggest excuse I hear for not joining and/or not being involved on a state or national level revolves around a personality conflict with someone who is involved. Preservation of our traditions and trapping rights should come before personality.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: rpmartin]
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07/21/19 04:43 PM
07/21/19 04:43 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,160 Marion Kansas
Yes sir
"Callie's little brother"
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"Callie's little brother"
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 10,160
Marion Kansas
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No shortage of people with sorry excuses why they won't or can't join an organization. Some are just down right pathetic, the excuses and people. That ought to motivate them to join our associations
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Yes sir]
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07/21/19 05:25 PM
07/21/19 05:25 PM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 3,302 S/W Wisconsin
rpmartin
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trapper
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Posts: 3,302
S/W Wisconsin
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No shortage of people with sorry excuses why they won't or can't join an organization. Some are just down right pathetic, the excuses and people. That ought to motivate them to join our associations I'll let you give out the hugs
Life member, NRA, NTA, RMEF, Pheasants Forever. WTA,TTA,FTA,SA,GOA, member
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Nittany Lion]
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07/21/19 09:53 PM
07/21/19 09:53 PM
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 10,105 WI - Wisconsin
AJE
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trapper
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Posts: 10,105
WI - Wisconsin
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It would be interesting to note what percentage of the T-Man family belong to a state or national trappers association. It would also be interesting to note why they do not belong. That would be interesting. Hopefully most belong. If they don't, they probably wouldn't admit to it. Maybe they'll join after reading this thread.
Last edited by AJE; 07/21/19 09:54 PM.
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Cathouse Jim]
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07/21/19 10:05 PM
07/21/19 10:05 PM
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,255 Montana
B. Shope
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trapper
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,255
Montana
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Here are some numbers for you -
The year of 2018 5,212 trapping license was sold in Montana
Current Montana Trappers Association membership 833
Out of that membership number 133 are out of state members supporting the association (thank you guys)
National Trappers Association members in Montana 237
Montana Trappers Association defeated 12 bills brought to legislation so far this year that pertains to trapping or wolves. Cathouse I wonder how many of those licenses are houndsman?
The Green Eyed Trapper
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: B. Shope]
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07/21/19 10:34 PM
07/21/19 10:34 PM
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Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 97 Churchville, NY
Bob Samuelson
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trapper
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Churchville, NY
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NY has around 10,000 licensed Trappers. Including Lifetime members, total membership is right around 1,400. Of those 1,400, there is a core group of about 25 or 30 that do all the work! When asked why they don’t belong, the usual answer is “What do I get for being a member?” Numbers count, folks! When a bill comes up for a vote, some politicians look at member numbers before deciding how to vote! Joining is easy! Benefits are immense when you consider the representation you get before politicians! Dues and conventions are the main sources of income. Without income, we cannot fight for our heritage! Please, join your state association. Joining the NTA & FTA in addition would be a bonus!
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Bob Samuelson]
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07/21/19 10:59 PM
07/21/19 10:59 PM
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8,773 East of the Mason-Dixon Line
DelawareRob
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trapper
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NY has around 10,000 licensed Trappers. Including Lifetime members, total membership is right around 1,400. Of those 1,400, there is a core group of about 25 or 30 that do all the work! When asked why they don’t belong, the usual answer is “What do I get for being a member?” Numbers count, folks! When a bill comes up for a vote, some politicians look at member numbers before deciding how to vote! Joining is easy! Benefits are immense when you consider the representation you get before politicians! Dues and conventions are the main sources of income. Without income, we cannot fight for our heritage! Please, join your state association. Joining the NTA & FTA in addition would be a bonus! PM sent.
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
Semper Paratus
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Grandpa Trapper]
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07/22/19 08:54 AM
07/22/19 08:54 AM
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Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,084 MO
cfowler
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trapper
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MO
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One of the reasons I heard over the years by some here on T-man they don’t belong is they do not like the bad politics of their state or national organization. That’s fine, but I would like to know specifics about what they feel is wrong. If word gets out of something that isn’t right maybe it can be corrected if enough of us know about it. Rather than wait on someone's "opinion", attend meetings, get to know people, be involved, and form your own opinion. That'd be my advise to anyone sitting on the sidelines.
I trap for fun. I skin 'em for the money! Grinners For Life-Lifetime Member, MO Chapter, Den #1 ~You Grin, You're In~
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Bob Samuelson]
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07/22/19 11:04 AM
07/22/19 11:04 AM
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Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 594 Little Valley, NY
Sawmill Creek
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trapper
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Little Valley, NY
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NY has around 10,000 licensed Trappers. Including Lifetime members, total membership is right around 1,400. Of those 1,400, there is a core group of about 25 or 30 that do all the work! When asked why they don’t belong, the usual answer is “What do I get for being a member?” Numbers count, folks! When a bill comes up for a vote, some politicians look at member numbers before deciding how to vote! Joining is easy! Benefits are immense when you consider the representation you get before politicians! Dues and conventions are the main sources of income. Without income, we cannot fight for our heritage! Please, join your state association. Joining the NTA & FTA in addition would be a bonus! Data released from the DEC shows 14,061 sold for 2017 & 13,223 for 2018
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: Pad Catch]
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07/22/19 11:45 AM
07/22/19 11:45 AM
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Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,494 Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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trapper
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 2,494
Garden,Michigan
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Using inside political problems or negative personalities as an excuse not to join is ridiculous.Over the years there's been a lot of dissent about this person,or that person,or how things were handled that not everybody agreed with.When Don Hoyt was ousted as president in the late 80's is a good example.I still have no idea what that was all about,the information about the situation was pretty vague.But I didn't quit over it!The big picture is whats important,not the petty squabbling over policies.Unfortunatley, the same excuses used then are used today.And when the Anti's target became the international market,I heard wayyy to many people here say,big deal,I'll just find another market.Yeah,like the mountain man circuit is going to sustain this industry.There is no other markets to speak of,and look at what New York,and California are trying to do to any industry that involves fur.Join up and stand and fight,or lose it all.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Trapping Organization Membership
[Re: tjm]
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07/22/19 05:33 PM
07/22/19 05:33 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 10,491 MN
Steven 49er
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trapper
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Most trapper organizations are set up as non profits that cannot be involved with or interfere in politics in a meaningful way.\
That's not true. Many trappers groups are 501c6 which allow for lobbying. Even a C3 can lobby in some capacity.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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