Re: I have a question about NICS
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Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? This guy sure was and tried to get a firearm, why was he not arrested is what I'm wondering.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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The crime isn't in trying to buy the gun, but in submitting a false affidavit in trying to buy one. You have to fill out the form, sign the affidavit part, and turn it in to the gun dealer, who then checks with NICS system.
The problem is the feds hardly ever arrest and prosecute for filing the false affidavit. Leaving the miscreant free to look somewhere else for the firearm.
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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Also NICS hits and requests for records are unfortunately probably ignored by many many small town or county law enforcement that have no idea what they're getting requests for due to lack of resources and high turnover. And or NICS is sending requests to out dated fax numbers or email addresses. How many agencies know who to call to update that contact info if someone leaves?
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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I thought Americans have the right to bear arms.
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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We do.
That shooting in TX, where law enforcement failed to stop him when the first shots were fired, just shows that LE cant protect you and NICS check at gun stores is a waste of tax dollars. Even if private sales are required to get a check first how will that be enforced? Your supposed to have a prescription to buy cocaine also.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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I thought Americans have the right to bear arms. Mostly in theory. They have forgotten that whole, “shall not be infringed” part quite a long time ago.
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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I said mostly. Some states don’t allow the peasants to carry or defend themselves. They need to wait until the report writers come to document the crime, after it happens of course.
Who is John Galt?
You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to the level of your training.
Semper Paratus
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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3%. 7 generations ago in 1740 my great great great great great great grandfather, John Clifton was born in Virginia. He latter married Mary Perry. He risked everything he had and everything his family had, to fight for a government that would recognize the rights we have today. I'm not going to let him down and just give them back. https://archive.org/stream/listofrevolution00virg/listofrevolution00virg_djvu.txt
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: I have a question about NICS
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As an FFL dealer I will not call the BATF if a person answers "yes" to any of the questions 11B thru 12.D.1. We cannot call it in if there is a "yes" on any of those questions. If a person lies on the form and we call it in they should be "denied" if the BATF records are good. If the applicant feels that the BATF denies them unjustly we provide them with the proper appeal form to submit and get their records cleaned up. Several persons have done that successfully but it usually takes quite a while maybe be a year. We have not used the "E check" system over the computer so I cannot say how it works.
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