Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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I'd say it's most often a people issue, not an animal issue. There is always an underlying issue. From what I've read. It can be fixed without putting the animal down. I wouldn't be quick about putting down an animal. Step back and figure what has changed in the animals environment. He or she is trying to tell you something isn't right and the dog is is reacting. Much like a child when they act out. There will be someone I'm sure questioned what I'm talking about. Let's just State, I'm Nationally Certified in Animal behavioral. Rarely does the animal need to put down. Most issues can be corrected. It may take longer then people want to invest or have the knowledge to. I NOW work with mentally ill people. Give me a dog anytime versus a person. Dogs can be read and cured without killing them. People not so much. Very rare did I have to put down an animal due to bahorial issues. Most were and are caused by humans. Sarge
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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I have had male Labs for a long time, only one female a long time ago. A couple of my males, when they reached around 1 year, growled when being disciplined. In both cases I grabbed them and flipped them over on their back, and bit them hard in the throat while growling myself. Hard enough that I spit out hair. Neither of those ever growled again while being disciplined.
A recent male, however, was just strange. It was to the point I believed there were underlying issues beyond standard training...in essence mentally ill. One evening as I was on my way home from work I got a call from my wife. To make a long story short, she had been nicely petting him in the kitchen when his hair went up and he began growling at her. She is disabled and backed off and he advanced while growling. No rhyme, reason, or cause for his behavior. Got home, kept him locked in the litchen, and took him for a one-way trip to the Vet the next morning.
The reason I tell that story is that I firmly believe there are dogs in this world that exhibit behaviors that cannot be trained out. Biting is a tough one to even try to deal with. There may be some underlying causes for your dog to be acting that way that are beyond her and beyond you to change.
Best of luck to you and your family in this.
Moosetrot By dicipline do you mean beat? If thats the case i would growl too. That being said, you cant train "mean" out of a dog. You can train them not to bite and HOPE it doesnt happen again but will still be mean. I would never chance it. I been training dogs for a living for over 20 years. Its tough when it comes to what needs done.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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It's genetic. There is no cure. You can tightly monitor ALL interactions... until the dog goes too far and must be put down. Or put her down now. Sucks big time, but in my experience that's just how it is.
At 18 months you're probably past any guarantee or return policy with the breeder. I agree. I trained dogs for a living for 10 years. Nothing worse than a biter. It will be there for the life of the dog.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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Vet should check thyroid levels This. Yes while I don't excuse the behavior I would rule out medical issues first before taking drastic steps.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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Thanks everyone. Yes, these aggressions have been totally unprovoked and started at the MTA convention with a member on here. If the kids were pulling her tail or something I kind of get it but it isn't like that. She is a BEAUTIFUL do that we paid a lot of money for, she is a great dog to us, fantastic nose, etc but no amount of that can make up for being aggressive towards a kid and I am not willing to take that chance. I guess deep down I knew what the answer was and was just hoping for a "miracle". It's the boys dog so obviously he is pretty bummed and doesn't fully understand "why" his dog needs to be taken away.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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Thanks everyone. Yes, these aggressions have been totally unprovoked and started at the MTA convention with a member on here. If the kids were pulling her tail or something I kind of get it but it isn't like that. She is a BEAUTIFUL do that we paid a lot of money for, she is a great dog to us, fantastic nose, etc but no amount of that can make up for being aggressive towards a kid and I am not willing to take that chance. I guess deep down I knew what the answer was and was just hoping for a "miracle". It's the boys dog so obviously he is pretty bummed and doesn't fully understand "why" his dog needs to be taken away. She better be a prize winning show dog. If she bites the right kid or wrong one ever how you look at it, and it will cost you ALOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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This has been a very interesting thread, lot of different views etc. This is the reason I never use the spear type mole traps. I just will not take a chance of someone's pet or child getting hurt. Just not worth the risk.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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No body at least not normal people, likes shooting a dog. Be something wrong with you if you did . Its lots worse to haul a kid to the er. Because you did not
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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"By dicipline do you mean beat? If thats the case i would growl too."
No, ccl...I do not beat my dogs.
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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No body at least not normal people, likes shooting a dog. Be something wrong with you if you did . Its lots worse to haul a kid to the er. Because you did not X2. Life to short to waste on a unsatisfactory dog
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Re: Aggressive Lab Problems?
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I agree that its not worth the risk, or liability, can it be fixed ?, maybe, then again probably not, I had a nice male yellow lab that started to get cheeky with me, that I fixed, but my wife and baby daughter couldn't handle him and it just wasn't worth taking a chance, I could have moved him to a different owner but the underlying issue would still be there, waiting, I didn't want to be responsible even second hand....It's a hard decision, not everyone can do it, but sometimes it's the only answer....
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