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Gland Spiked Urine #6630196
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I want to make a souped up batch of urine. My own personal "Pro-Mix". I have a few jars of frozen glands from both fox, and coyote. Maybe 16 oz total, after being chopped up. Couple questions.

1) How should I prepare the glands...chopped up, or ground?

2) Should I taint, rot, or use the glands fresh?

3) If used fresh, how long should they soak in the urine before it'd be ready to use?

4) What percentage of glands to urine would be about right?

If you guys can give me any suggestions, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!

Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6630477
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Grind the glands. I taint mine for three days then stop with S.B. and add gly. Add about 1/4 gly to amount of glands
I like mine to age for as long as I can leave them. At least 2 weeks 2 months is better. A year is better yet
You can use at 2 weeks and have a good product. I like 4oz of glands to a pint of urine.Let age for a week or two then I strain the urine and put the glands back in the jar
Hope this helps


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6630527
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Great stuff. Thanks for sharing Wayne


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6630559
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Thanks Wayne! Yes, it does help. That's exactly what I was looking for.

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Out of curiosity Wayne would it end up hurting if the glands was left in the urine? I know fox hollow leaves a significant amount of gland material in there mag pee, Before tim when bob still owned it . But after a few years it takes on a complete different smell more glandular then urine. but honestly I don't know if that's good or bad! I never seen a animal response that proved either way. I have a few gallons of mag pee that's coming to the 6 year mark


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: TONY.F] #6631047
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I like to thoroughly rot my glands until they are almost liquid.

The amount you add to the urine depends on how much urine you use at a set. I like about 2 oz glands and 2 oz glycerine per 12 oz urine.


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6631276
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It doesn't matter if you leave the glands in. I like a squrit and go
Rotted down glands are great in it also. Matter of choice.
The older it gets there is a more gland odor.
Sometime I like mine with a sharp urine smell
Sometime the older gland smell
Depends on what I see the coyote reaction


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: wayne52] #6631334
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Originally Posted by wayne52
It doesn't matter if you leave the glands in. I like a squrit and go
Rotted down glands are great in it also. Matter of choice.
The older it gets there is a more gland odor.
Sometime I like mine with a sharp urine smell
Sometime the older gland smell
Depends on what I see the coyote reaction


I’ve noticed the same thing Wayne. The longer it ages the stronger the gland odor.


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Here’s a gallon of good stuff. Red fox glands broken down to liquid aging in good meat fed winter fox urine I collected myself.

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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6631361
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I got some glands at that stage but the only urine I have on hand is waynes single male yote I hate to risk messing up a already great attractant! Man I wish I could collect my own urine! Miserys laws are stupid on that subject! Its legal if you use tame yotes lol isn't that a oxy moron? or have obedience school certifications! Never knew obedience school was a guarantee you could trust a animal


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Originally Posted by wayne52
It doesn't matter if you leave the glands in. I like a squrit and go
Rotted down glands are great in it also. Matter of choice.
The older it gets there is a more gland odor.
Sometime I like mine with a sharp urine smell
Sometime the older gland smell
Depends on what I see the coyote reaction


Wayne, what do you prefer for spiked bobcat urine? Rotted, fresh, both?


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6631391
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I don't thank Fresh has much smell
I taint mine for about three days. Kind of release the smell
I call that fresh But I want fresh tainted in mine
don't forget the gly. It helps brake down the gland smell
Coon Duke that looks good
Tony any good urine works good with the glands


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From my testing with trail cams rotted and aged provokes a much more intense reaction with red fox when compared to fresh.

Wayne, that gallon has glycerine in it but I didn’t know it helped create that classic aged gland odor. I always add glycerine so never gave it a thought. Thanks for the info.


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Just call me lazy. For more years than I care to mention, I've been adding an oz of gland lure to a pint of urine. I mostly use fox GL & U. If I don't catch a coyote/fox in a set and have a hard rain I give the set a squirt. Same with any set that hasn't caught anything after 4 or 5 days. Works for me & I don't have to mess with AHoles. Mr. Jepsen did show me how to collect coyote glands maybe I should start saving them. What are they worth per coyote or fox?

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I like to spike cat pee. add in 2-3 anals and that fat that's under the skin there to a jar of it. I just put them in right fresh from the cat. will have to try waiting a few days.


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Originally Posted by ebsurveyor
Just call me lazy. For more years than I care to mention, I've been adding an oz of gland lure to a pint of urine. I mostly use fox GL & U. If I don't catch a coyote/fox in a set and have a hard rain I give the set a squirt. Same with any set that hasn't caught anything after 4 or 5 days. Works for me & I don't have to mess with AHoles. Mr. Jepsen did show me how to collect coyote glands maybe I should start saving them. What are they worth per coyote or fox?


With the price of fox right now, the glands may be worth more than the pelt.

When cutting the vent try to trim away as much fur as possible. Fur is a notorious clogger of nozzles.


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Re: Gland Spiked Urine [Re: yukonal] #6631678
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If you let those anal glands M/F sit out at room temperature a few days just enough to sour a bit the hair will slip right off clean as a whistle. Be careful to guard against the flies as they will find them surely. Bag your container or bucket to protect them in this stage. I use a commercial fly killer the kills them fast.

I spray it around the bucket lid rim and bucket rim.I keep an eye on them as they begin to develop the bacteria you will know when they are ready to clean. They come out looking like cute little mini donuts. It works on male and female parts. The ovum needs trimmed a little at times on the females but the vents usually pull hair easily.

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Do you guys see a problem with mixing the fox and coyote glands into the urine, or should I keep them separate? I will be using fox urine as the carrier.

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let’s look at this another way. Glands alone attract a certain number of responses. Urine alone, does too. Combined, however, yields a number of chemical combinations that seem to have more draw to more customers. We smell glands and urine. Canines smell these plus the combination chemicals and it is the combination compounds that seem to be having the greater impact.

I suspect you could soak fox, or coyote, or ‘cat, or otter, or beaver, or muskrat (and so on) glands in fox, coyote, dog or any sort of cat urine and you’d get fur bearer response. (It might not be the response we want, but it will be a response.). Bob Jameson, Mark June, Russ Carmen, Craig O’Gorman and countless other lure makers have done this. Their catalogs contain the ones that worked the way they wanted them to.

Think of it in terms of horse radish and ketchup and shrimp. Some people will put ketchup on shrimp. Few put horse radish (straight) on shrimp. But combined, they make a tangy cocktail sauce that a lot of people put on shrimp and other types of seafood.


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Originally Posted by yukonal
Do you guys see a problem with mixing the fox and coyote glands into the urine, or should I keep them separate? I will be using fox urine as the carrier.


That is fine as far as animal attraction is concerned. If you plan to rot them keep in mind that coyote glands with a lot of fat do not break down the same as fox glands.


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