No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter
As you can see Author, there are many vantage points on this topic. I don't load my 5/64" 7x7 snares for dogs or cats. If you snare where it's windy (it usually is where we are) then you will be touching snares a lot after the wind gets done with them. Everybody's conditions can vary region to region, so take that into consideration also. What works in VA may not be as productive in TX or WA.
Last edited by Mark June; 10/02/1909:45 PM.
Re: Snaring predators..loaded or unloaded?
[Re: Boone Liane]
#6630780 10/02/1908:44 AM10/02/1908:44 AM
If you think any snare “fires” fast enough and closes sufficiently small enough to initially catch and hold a canine “right behind the ears”, I’ve got some ocean front property I’ll sell ya real cheap.
Sounds like you bought that property... A properly loaded snare with a heavy lock will close down to smaller than wrist size depending on cable size. 1/16 will close the smallest. 3/32 will get down to a 3 inch roughly . 1x19 cable will do anything 7x7 can but better , except be a limp noodle... There's a reason the vast majority of snareman who have studied the way animals react and hit snares use 1x19. I ran video cameras on cables for 3 years around 12 years ago. 7x7 just can't beat 1x19. Especially if someone is forced to use CR. Anyway I'm not going to argue as it seems your mind is set. So let's discuss this 7x7 set up that can close so small just by falling ( even though once an animal touches the snare it is no longer falling straight down).
What is your lock and cable of Choice?
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
Re: Snaring predators..loaded or unloaded?
[Re: AirportTrapper]
#6630904 10/02/1911:22 AM10/02/1911:22 AM
If you think any snare “fires” fast enough and closes sufficiently small enough to initially catch and hold a canine “right behind the ears”, I’ve got some ocean front property I’ll sell ya real cheap.
Sounds like you bought that property... A properly loaded snare with a heavy lock will close down to smaller than wrist size depending on cable size. 1/16 will close the smallest. 3/32 will get down to a 3 inch roughly . 1x19 cable will do anything 7x7 can but better , except be a limp noodle... There's a reason the vast majority of snareman who have studied the way animals react and hit snares use 1x19. I ran video cameras on cables for 3 years around 12 years ago. 7x7 just can't beat 1x19. Especially if someone is forced to use CR. Anyway I'm not going to argue as it seems your mind is set. So let's discuss this 7x7 set up that can close so small just by falling ( even though once an animal touches the snare it is no longer falling straight down).
What is your lock and cable of Choice?
Amberg or full size camlock (none of that micro lock BS) on 5/64 7x7. Played with 1/16 7x7 for cats, but I doubt I’ll continue with it. Catch enough cats in 5/64 I see no need to screw with a second cable size and keeping crap organized.
When it comes to dispatch snaring canines, I’ve experimented with just about every snare system out there and have the numbers to back up why I say what I say and why I use what I use.
I’ve used 1x19 multiple times, with multiple locks, in multiple sizes, and have caught a LOT of coyotes with it. Enough to know how it stacks up to 7x7 in side by side trials in the exact same creek and coulee bottoms. I’ve got more than enough coyotes behind both to say quite confidently, I’ll likely never make another 1x19 snare for dispatch snaring canines and cats.
Amberg or full size camlock (none of that micro lock BS) on 5/64 7x7.
Believe it or not, in my experience a 3/32 micro lock on 5/64 1 x19 cable along with a 50# compression spring works very well at providing quick dispatches when set up properly. Have had many coyote DOA with little to no significant site disturbance or waterhead.
Last edited by bctomcat; 10/02/1912:48 PM.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
Amberg or full size camlock (none of that micro lock BS) on 5/64 7x7.
Believe it or not, in my experience a 3/32 micro lock on 5/64 1 x19 cable along with a 50# compression spring works very well at providing quick dispatches when set up properly. Have had many coyote DOA with little to no significant site disturbance or waterhead.
I’d believe it.
I’ve been playing with 1/8” cam locks on 3/32 for foot snaring. Big heavy lock on limp cables closes real small without help (very important for foot snaring).
May go to a 3/32 lock on 5/64. I was using big cable due to chewing concerns but just don’t see the chewing happening on a foot snare.
This is not an accurate statement Airport Trapper. I know of more using 7x7 for canines than use 1x19.
Originally Posted by AirportTrapper
Originally Posted by Boone Liane
If you think any snare “fires” fast enough and closes sufficiently small enough to initially catch and hold a canine “right behind the ears”, I’ve got some ocean front property I’ll sell ya real cheap.
Sounds like you bought that property... A properly loaded snare with a heavy lock will close down to smaller than wrist size depending on cable size. 1/16 will close the smallest. 3/32 will get down to a 3 inch roughly . 1x19 cable will do anything 7x7 can but better , except be a limp noodle... There's a reason the vast majority of snareman who have studied the way animals react and hit snares use 1x19. I ran video cameras on cables for 3 years around 12 years ago. 7x7 just can't beat 1x19. Especially if someone is forced to use CR. Anyway I'm not going to argue as it seems your mind is set. So let's discuss this 7x7 set up that can close so small just by falling ( even though once an animal touches the snare it is no longer falling straight down).
I don't do enough snaring to have what I say count for to much, I do like 5/64" 1x19 for all my snares and I also load them. I found they stay up better in this danged Iowa wind, locks are usually at 1 o'clock
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
As you can see Author, there are many vantage points on this topic. I don't load my 5/64" 7x7 snares for dogs or cats. If you snare where it's windy (it usually is where we are) then you will be touching snares a lot after the wind gets done with them. Everybody's conditions can vary region to region, so take that into consideration also. What works in VA may not be as productive in TX or WA.
