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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647243
10/23/19 09:10 PM
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You already have sold thru them Dirt when you sent fur to FHA.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647256
10/23/19 09:21 PM
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So I sold thru NAFA/SAGA by shipping fur to FHA who used SAGA's facility to sell some of my furs? Got it!


Who is John Galt?
Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647264
10/23/19 09:34 PM
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Yes your fur sold thru the saga facility to saga client buyers at the FHA Helsinki sale.
It might be different with Nafa selling with saga,maybe saga will use their automated grading machines for your fur.

Last edited by Boco; 10/23/19 09:36 PM.

Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: nimzy] #6647274
10/23/19 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Originally Posted by Dirt
I'm looking forward to shipping to them.


Lol


Well, at least, you got the joke.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647284
10/23/19 10:08 PM
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Wild fur trappers have suckled from the hind teat of the fur industry for quite some time. Why would anyone expect otherwise now?

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647286
10/23/19 10:09 PM
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I think everyone is missing the point here. Let's see. So NAFA (who owes a lot of trappers money for sold fur and has trapper product in house unsold fur on consignment) mentions WILD FUR in their letter. SAGA who doesn't have a stake in or care about wild fur and is holding all the financial cards doesn't mention wild fur in their letter. So as a business person who has had this attempted on me what I read is. From NAFA- It's gonna be alright folks cause we are now shored up by SAGA. Actual meaning from NAFA. You suckers hold your breath till WE can liquidate and get the heck out of Dodge and leave you all high and dry and keep the money. NAFA thinking - I hope they go for this screw job and don't wise up and put leans on us and take leagal action and get whichever Canadian agency that deals with business fraud involved. SAGA saying and thinking - Yay we win!!! Either way and WE don't have a dog in the hunt if this goes south for NAFA if they have legal trouble with all the folks they are indebted to.


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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647289
10/23/19 10:11 PM
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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647291
10/23/19 10:14 PM
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What why does saga have so much money???

Finnish ranches govt subsidized? So the “CoOp” doesn’t have to do the bank roll.

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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: nimzy] #6647348
10/23/19 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
What why does saga have so much money???

Finnish ranches govt subsidized? So the “CoOp” doesn’t have to do the bank roll.


Rumor has it, the WFSC gave them all their DVD producing money.

YES

The right-
wing Progress Party is in favour of removing the subsidies for fur
farming and in favour of stricter regulations.

In 2015 part of
the subsidies were in fact removed by the minister of agriculture
from the Progress Party.

Lot of their fur comes from Norway; subsidized.

Last edited by Dirt; 10/24/19 10:00 AM.

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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647456
10/24/19 07:03 AM
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May not mean a thing but our Ky cats that’s always sold as centrals for the last 30 years at NAFA sold , and I use that term loosely, as southerns at the Helsinki sale.

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: kytrapper] #6647533
10/24/19 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kytrapper
May not mean a thing but our Ky cats that’s always sold as centrals for the last 30 years at NAFA sold , and I use that term loosely, as southerns at the Helsinki sale.


All it means is that cats across the board have been getting weaker every year. The only cats that are good now are the mountain types, and selective demand there. Grading always get tougher when the market weakens.

FHA pulled out of the SAGA agreement because they couldn't make any money doing it anymore, as the cats and marten have become cheaper, the cost of doing the sale was getting in their pocket too much. As we all know, the last sale was poor at best. They feel they can do at least that good or better in North Bay. This coming from Mark Downey last week. When I ask him if we can handle the volume this year, he said"we are working on that"!


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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647654
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Norway is set to ban fur farming in 2025.

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: Dirt] #6647903
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by nimzy
What why does saga have so much money???

Finnish ranches govt subsidized? So the “CoOp” doesn’t have to do the bank roll.


Rumor has it, the WFSC gave them all their DVD producing money.

YES

The right-
wing Progress Party is in favour of removing the subsidies for fur
farming and in favour of stricter regulations.

In 2015 part of
the subsidies were in fact removed by the minister of agriculture
from the Progress Party.

Lot of their fur comes from Norway; subsidized.


That could explain there (saga) cash position. But they know the current market condition and the predicament borrowing to ranches caused Nafa so I have trouble grasping why they would step in. Is this a one year agreement? Or don’t they like money?

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6647922
10/24/19 07:07 PM
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Maybe the answer lies with why NAFA bought ALC.


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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6648050
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SeemsThose prestigious labels have lost there luster. Mink farming appears to be going by the way of the buggy whip. With shifting attitude towards cheap garments it may be only a matter of time before the whole thing collapses. It is getting serious.

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: Dirt] #6648057
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Maybe the answer lies with why NAFA bought ALC.


BINGO'
Winner of the Rubber Chicken Dinner.

watch for the next release of the " X Files" for the real answer is out there

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6648060
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When Trump put a duty on cheese curds leaving Wisc into Canada it killed the mink ranches food budgets up here.
One farm was only a semi load a bi- weekly... X mink farms you can do the math...

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6648069
10/24/19 09:13 PM
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Trumps Fault.

Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6648072
10/24/19 09:17 PM
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Mink coats are not in style now, but buyers keep buying up cheap ranch mink. Can someone tell me why?


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Re: Nafa to merge with saga [Re: mink99] #6648078
10/24/19 09:22 PM
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They don't make high-end mink coats. They make head bands, doll dresses, and trinkets. Per square inch, mink is relatively cheap. Not cotton fabric cheap, but less than other materials that it now substitutes.


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