Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 01:37 PM
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In Mo they're considered an invasive nuisance, they can steal a pasture or field in a few years.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 02:17 PM
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In Mo they're considered an invasive nuisance, they can steal a pasture or field in a few years. X2
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 03:16 PM
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I guess I should plant some ceder trees. The buck I just got had a tick on his right, umm, jingle bell.
I am working on clearing out a patch of dead ash trees. Maybe I could plant some ceders to replace them. Or maybe I could try some food plots.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 03:27 PM
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There are different types of cedar ....and as far east as you all are, I don't know what type grows there. Can't tell from that pic, either.
The cedars that are here are the native red cedar trees, tall huge ones that are only seen in the northwest areas of MT, ID,the islands off WA coast, and a bit up into BC . They love water and grow almost as large and as impressive as the coastal redwoods. So do Hemlocks here, and tamarack.
Maybe this is true for all cedars, but yes, bugs don't like them at all , and the wood is amazing in beauty to build with , though considered a soft wood. Maybe that is why there are so few ticks in the area. I rarely see them.
Many deer taken here have that sweet cedar smell to them, from polishing antlers on the bark.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 03:46 PM
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we have white cedar here deer love the brush in winter but generally leave them alone
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 06:50 PM
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There are different types of cedar ....and as far east as you all are, I don't know what type grows there. Can't tell from that pic, either.
The cedars that are here are the native red cedar trees, tall huge ones that are only seen in the northwest areas of MT, ID,the islands off WA coast, and a bit up into BC . They love water and grow almost as large and as impressive as the coastal redwoods. So do Hemlocks here, and tamarack.
Maybe this is true for all cedars, but yes, bugs don't like them at all , and the wood is amazing in beauty to build with , though considered a soft wood. Maybe that is why there are so few ticks in the area. I rarely see them.
Many deer taken here have that sweet cedar smell to them, from polishing antlers on the bark.
True, there many cedars that aren't true cedars, same for cypress, fir and pines. Lots of confusion with local names of conifers. Not just conifers, what most of us easterners call poplar (yellow or tulip poplar) is actually a tulip tree (not to be confused with the south american tulip tree of a completely different species) and not a true poplar (cottonwood family). What most of us easterners call an eastern red cedar is actually a juniper or Juniperus virginiana. Often growing next to white cedar aka arborvitae which isn't a cedar either but a cypress.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 07:11 PM
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Maybe they are a juniper variety. Cedars take years to get established and they grow fairly slow. Western Red Cedar is a hardy slow grower the deer get the dark tar horns from them. The deer I got this year smell from cedar trees and yes they tear them up here and break them off.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 08:43 PM
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we have white cedar here deer love the brush in winter but generally leave them alone Yes sir I have a 30 acre white cedar swamp on my land, around West Branch it has deer yards in winter and provides me with all the fence posts I could ever need, they just last forever.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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I used to turkey hunt in Mo. Those cedars will grow in a well used Wal-Mart parking lot. Never seen anything like it. As far as repelling ticks I don't know. I remember once brushing into a cedar in Mo. and my entire leafy suit was moving with ticks. Looked kinda interesting a fat Ms. guy in his drawers with a shotgun on the side of the road. I'm sure it provided some laughter.
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/04/19 09:32 PM
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There are different types of cedar ....and as far east as you all are, I don't know what type grows there. Can't tell from that pic, either.
The cedars that are here are the native red cedar trees, tall huge ones that are only seen in the northwest areas of MT, ID,the islands off WA coast, and a bit up into BC . They love water and grow almost as large and as impressive as the coastal redwoods. So do Hemlocks here, and tamarack.
Maybe this is true for all cedars, but yes, bugs don't like them at all , and the wood is amazing in beauty to build with , though considered a soft wood. Maybe that is why there are so few ticks in the area. I rarely see them.
Many deer taken here have that sweet cedar smell to them, from polishing antlers on the bark.
True, there many cedars that aren't true cedars, same for cypress, fir and pines. Lots of confusion with local names of conifers. Not just conifers, what most of us easterners call poplar (yellow or tulip poplar) is actually a tulip tree (not to be confused with the south american tulip tree of a completely different species) and not a true poplar (cottonwood family). What most of us easterners call an eastern red cedar is actually a juniper or Juniperus virginiana. Often growing next to white cedar aka arborvitae which isn't a cedar either but a cypress. I figured it would be a mixture of species and local terms , still very interesting . What a cool place the Tribe is here, so much knowledge right at hand ! It makes total sense that apiculturists would also be so knowledgeable in their flora as well. I enjoyed your explanation, Warrior. Learn new things every day !
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Re: Deer vs cedar
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11/05/19 05:34 AM
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Funny thing, the man I work for at the golf resort and owner, lives in Arkansas. When he comes to Michigan to stay and play golf, every evergreen type tree is a "Cedar" Red pine, White pine, Jack pine, and not one Cedar on the entire 1600 acres. They must be a weed tree in his home state.
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