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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: Dirt] #6675706
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Best part was when he said the few people who applauded this ridiculous idea at an economics club were the smart ones. crazy


As ridiculous as the idea sounds and is, It's where this ship is sailing.The Fed is just saying "Not yet".

And that's the news they are not reporting. Cricket's.

Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 11/26/19 04:43 AM.

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: Diggerman] #6676007
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Please post a link to this negative interest rate thingy. I have not heard any such drivel except here., oh by the way , check your 401's, new record on Wall street AQAIN.


I didn't check my 401K , but I did find some factual news.

"When it comes to talking himself up, Trump in particular has compared himself to Barack Obama. So, how do the two presidents measure up in terms of growth in major indexes, measured between their inauguration and May 31 of their third year in office?

The short answer is that Trump has quite a way to go. Under Obama, the S&P 500 grew by 56.4%. The Dow Jones Industrials Average was up 50.6% and the Nasdaq, 92.9%.

The numbers under Trump were 21.4% for the S&P 500, 25.2% for the Dow, and 34.2% for Nasdaq."

Source: Fortune June 3 2019. Trump has gained a little since then though. I give credit to neither President.


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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676061
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Collect your checks, but by all means don't stop whining.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676066
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"I do whine because I want to win and I'm not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on Tuesday.


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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676068
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Dirt, you are too smart to use a percentage gain as you presented. At least use a meaningful metric so your argument has a factual basis.

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But it looks good if you start Obama at the temporary crash numbers.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676086
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How comes you economic gurus never bring up economic growth numbers?

They tell you more than anything as to how our economy is doing. Embarrassed of them?

We, in our history have only ever had one president who couldn't crack 2‰. Enough said on that subject.

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I don't believe there is any President that could not crack 2% annual growth. There are 2 Presidents for sure that have never cracked 3% annual growth. The last one and the one current one.


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Your correct Dirt, I had that wrong..

Obama has the worst record at a dismal 1.5% average for his term, worst all time. It was 3% as you stated that he never reached.

Point being, he is the worst for our economy in our lifetime, if not ever.

Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: Dirt] #6676128
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I don't believe there is any President that could not crack 2% annual growth. There are 2 Presidents for sure that have never cracked 3% annual growth. The last one and the one current one.


You would be correct on Obama, not on Trump who actually went over 4% GDP. Obama in 8 years averaged 1.88%. Google it.


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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: hippie] #6676132
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Originally Posted by hippie
Your correct Dirt, I had that wrong..

Obama has the worst record at a dismal 1.5% average for his term, worst all time. It was 3% as you stated that he never reached.

Point being, he is the worst for our economy in our lifetime, if not ever.


I agree Donald Trump has a better record than the President with worse record. Not by much and Donald's is going down these days.

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676139
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If a person lived through 8 years of obama and is whining about President trump. You would fit the description of a closet liberal that has not come to terms with admitting to yourself yet..

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Yea, of all things to attack Trump on, the economy isn't one of them if you want to be taken seriously.

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Originally Posted by hippie
How comes you economic gurus never bring up economic growth numbers?

They tell you more than anything as to how our economy is doing. Embarrassed of them?

We, in our history have only ever had one president who couldn't crack 2‰. Enough said on that subject.


This the second time I have brought up GDP growth numbers. Isn't it obvious why most people won't post fact here? If the facts don't support the narrative then you get accused of all kind of crazy stuff and called derogatory names.

Personally, I would like to thank the Moderators for not axing this thread the first hour it was on here especially since it violates the rules.


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Economic growth numbers. GDP is part of it, as are the stock market.numbers.

Two different cats Dirt, both used to grade the economy.

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: yukonjeff] #6676171
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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
If a person lived through 8 years of obama and is whining about President trump. You would fit the description of a closet liberal that has not come to terms with admitting to yourself yet..



grin wink Good one YK.


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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: hippie] #6676195
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Originally Posted by hippie
Yea, of all things to attack Trump on, the economy isn't one of them if you want to be taken seriously.


Less people working today than during the 2008 financial collapse. That has not changed much sense 2013 but you can keep believing those number's they put out.The stock market isn't the economy for most.

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Re: Fox News bogus headline [Re: k snow] #6676201
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I made almost 100K in my 401K in Trumps first year. The last couple have fallen off, but still close to 1K a month. If he gets elected one more term I should retire right on time or maybe a little earlier than expected. Once I reach a certain set goal I’m gone! Trapping 365 then...minus my turkey trips!

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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
I made almost 100K in my 401K in Trumps first year. The last couple have fallen off, but still close to 1K a month. If he gets elected one more term I should retire right on time or maybe a little earlier than expected. Once I reach a certain set goal I’m gone! Trapping 365 then...minus my turkey trips!


No doubt the stock market will continue to rise. That is the monetary policy . That's what it's all about. The monetary heroin will continue to be injected. Interest rates will continue to fall. The debt will continue to rise.

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