Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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The sheriff is being reckless in saying he'll defy a court order. The judge could order him held in his own jail for contempt of court.
Smells like a PR stunt to me. Is this sheriff up for election soon?
Jim
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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The sheriff is being reckless in saying he'll defy a court order. The judge could order him held in his own jail for contempt of court.
Smells like a PR stunt to me. Is this sheriff up for election soon?
Jim Trump probably put him up to it.
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Can the VA governor call up the National Guard to enforce sate law?
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Sounds like a sheriff who is willing to walk the walk. If he wants legal advice he knows where to find it.
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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If cities can declare they will give sanctuary to illegal aliens why can't a sheriff give sanctuary to constitutionally protected gun owners? These d's are pushing hard. No call to ban pov's yet I have noticed or high school football. Its going to come to a head soon is what is scaring me.
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Trump has set an example by opposing globalism and liberalism. Maybe we should follow his example. Not necessarily all his tactics. We need to speak out loudly with facts not emotion. Anybody who proposes fundamentally changing America is my foe.
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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The sheriff is being reckless in saying he'll defy a court order. The judge could order him held in his own jail for contempt of court.
Smells like a PR stunt to me. Is this sheriff up for election soon?
Jim He took an oath to uphold thr constitution.
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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And the Constitution says the judicial branch is the interpreter of the Constitution, not some podunk sheriff in Bumfugistan.
Do you suppose every sheriff in the USA can interpret the Constitution the way he prefers?
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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bill of rights wasn't written for lawyers. if the supremes did their job apolitically as is demanded of them we wouldn't be having this conversation
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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James,
What is the best evidence of the meaning of any legal document?
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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And the Constitution says the judicial branch is the interpreter of the Constitution, not some podunk sheriff in Bumfugistan.
Do you suppose every sheriff in the USA can interpret the Constitution the way he prefers?
Jim Yeah, Dred Scott and Miller were some great interpretations. Leave the decisions to professional students of the law... Looks like they've done a bang-up job counselor. Mike
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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And the Constitution says the judicial branch is the interpreter of the Constitution, not some podunk sheriff in Bumfugistan. Jim Wasn't this country founded by podunks who lived in Bumfugistans all over the colonies, James? mt
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaa. Blaaaa That's all I hear when you make a post James
Who are you, and why should I care what you hear? Jim
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Things are going to get really messy across the nation. As I see it, sanctuary cities are the result of dispute between the federal government and state/local government. The federal government isn't pressing for jurisdiction of county Sheriff's to enforce detainers (Separation of federal and state powers). The issue brought up with this post seems to be a state government creating laws for the county Sheriff to enforce. If the county Sheriff refuses, then the state could take jurisdiction for some sort of failure to enforce the law. Bet there is plenty of elected district court judges (or equivalent in VA) that have their sights set and ready to pull the trigger on the first Sheriff that gets charged by a state agent and/or state prosecutor. Also bet they order their detention outside of the Sheriff's own jail in a neighboring county as well.
My point is that I find it difficult for the federal government to indict a county sheriff due to jurisdiction issues, however for a state to charge a county sheriff is much more plausible and relatively easy in my own opinion. Good point. This appears to be a fight between a county sheriff and the state. It would probably be state courts that tell the sheriff what to do. If he wants to stand on the US Constitution, he could bring an action against the state in federal court. Jim
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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The sheriff is being reckless in saying he'll defy a court order. The judge could order him held in his own jail for contempt of court.
Smells like a PR stunt to me. Is this sheriff up for election soon?
Jim The Sheriff and his deputies dont have to enforce every law on the books, and I hope this is one they will not
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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I guess the real question is whats wrong with Virginians ?? What did they think would happen if they gave the entire state to the loonies on the left?? That governor is plumb nuts got all the nutcase lib's in the big citys, they vote for the dems and pretty much take and run over the rest of the state. one of these days the country folk will get fed up and it's gonna get ugly
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Re: Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce
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Virginia Sheriff Will Not Enforce Unconstitutional Gun LawsAmelia County, Virginia, Sheriff Ricky L. Walker is making clear he will not enforce unconstitutional gun laws even if ordered to by a judge. The focus on unconstitutional gun laws comes as Democrats prepare to take over the Virginia legislature and Gov. Ralph Northam (D) readies a war on guns. The Washington Post quoted Sheriff Walker speaking to Amelia County residents, saying, “My oath of office is to uphold the Constitution of the United States.” He explained that he would not confiscate guns even under a judge’s order, if the law at the center of the judge’s ruling was unconstitutional. Walker added, “That’s what I hang my hat on.” On November 23, Breitbart News reported that “Second Amendment Sanctuary” declarations were being made in numerous Virginia counties. Appomattox, Giles, and Dinwiddle counties all declared themselves to be such sanctuaries. The Post reports that Charlotte, Campbell, Carroll, Lee, Patrick, and Pittsylvania have all “approved resolutions that defy Richmond to come take their guns.” Virginia Delegate Ken Plum (D-Fairfax) has already introduced legislation for the incoming Democrat majority to pass. Plum’s legislation would outlaw private gun sales. While such a move would criminalize a neighbor for selling a 5-shot revolver to a lifelong neighbor, it would do nothing to stop mass shooters, who almost always get their guns via background checks. Source: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...l-not-enforce-unconstitutional-gun-laws/ CORRECT! The goal is not to stop mass shootings................it's to disarm the public. That's always been a prerequisite of Socialist control of any population. The National Socialist leader said that in 1938 (Hitler) and the Soviet Socialists leader (Lenin) stated that in "Letters From Afar". Disarming the public has been the goal of the left for all time, they can't exert totalitarian government otherwise.
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