Bear Gall
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I got a 142# boar black bear and I am going to sell the gall. It weighs 73/4 ounces. Anybody know the going price for bear gall?
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 09:01 AM
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I check every time before selling and I have a call into our warden now and a call into the New York warden to make sure it’s still ok with both states. Last sold a small one for $93. I suggest checking with your state fish and game.
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 09:33 AM
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It's illegal to sell them here in AK.
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Re: Bear Gall
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James is it just the gall that is illegal to sell how about claws,paws,meat,skulls and hide?
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 10:21 AM
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330 that reason is just plain silly. I live in Idaho and have sold a lot of galls. They usually go for somewhere between $10 and $20 an ounce. I pack them out but I sure don't get rich. I can't imagine anyone risking fines and losing their license for that amount of money. I don't understand states that don't let you use all parts of an animal.
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Re: Bear Gall
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My VT warden just called and said it was ok to sell and transport to NY as long as NY state regulations allow it. I am waiting to hear back from the NY warden she is checking to make sure its still ok. NY just passed a law a couple weeks ago that you can’t bring whole deer into the state to be processed it has to be deboned first. My meat cutter isn’t happy he’s in NY and said they passed the law in the middle of hunting season and he was going to loose 20-30 thousand dollars because of it.
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 10:36 AM
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Used to sell bear gall and claws at FHA before they changed the law.Illegal now to sell bear parts not made into jewellery.You are not even allowed to posess a bear gall here.Has to be left with the gut pile. Last time I checked it was still legal to sell the gall and other parts in Quebec and Manitoba.Not sure about other provinces. When we sold bear gall,they wanted them tied off with string before removing from the liver.Then in order to retain the bile,they wanted the gall blanched in boiling water to seal before drying. If I remember correctly I believe the rate was around $5 a gram.A decent gall would be 20 gm or more.
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Re: Bear Gall
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Alaska regs on selling bear parts have changed over the last 10 years. Some parts can be sold. Some parts can be sold if the bear is from certain GMUs. Currently no selling of gall. Fluid can be powdered crushed and taken as a remedy for muscle soreness. mt
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 12:22 PM
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That market is why Most States have banned the sale...to slow down poaching. Yep an the reason Northern Snakehead are in U.S. waters and some subspecies of rhinos are in danger of extinction and the list goes on. Any time a monetary value is placed on animal parts, especially when the value is inflated by some moronic belief it has magical powers to make Wanka’s Willy stand up and pay attention, there will always be greedy people willing to kill every last one of which ever species has the price on it’s head. As far as some Outfitters “not willing to risk their licenses “ there have been a number of high profile convictions involving hundreds of critters and hundreds of thousands of dollars in recent years that prove otherwise. The Dinosaur Monument hunting club in north western Colorado near Maybell comes to mind. Heck there was even a bigshot outdoor show host and TROPHY whitetail slayer that was spotlighting the TROPHIES that were his claim to fame. SundanceMtMan nothing silly about it. Greed is a human condition that not everyone can resist.
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Re: Bear Gall
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11/27/19 12:41 PM
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You are talking about things that a poacher can get thousands of dollars for. A bear gall usually sells for less than $100. I realize you can't stop all idiots but if judges and the courts would crack down on these guys it would put a dent in illegal trade. Most in my area just get their hands slapped. If you make people show a license when they sell that would help. In Idaho I don't believe we have a large problem with selling poached items, we have a huge poaching problem but just for meat and the thrill kill. As sportsmen we could help with the problem by turning in poachers and not congratulating people on unethical harvests. The future of all hunting,fishing and trapping depends on all of us.
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Re: Bear Gall
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Here in Michigan we are not allowed to sell galls. Nor can we sell claws or teeth. You can sell skulls with teeth in them, and also full pelts with claws attached. For years I saved the claws off bear brought into my taxidermy shop if the customer didn't want them. I had gobs of them and was planning to unload them "someday". The state went and passed the law we have now, and suddenly my bunch of claws were worse than worthless. I thought I'd just wait until I was passing through a state where sale was legal (I had license numbers/hunter names/ dates taken, etc. for EVERY claw!). I found out that even leaving the state with them in my possession, with intent to sell, was a federal crime! In my opinion it is B.S. if the animal was taken legally, but I wasn't willing to test any law....state or federal. I pitched the bunch of them. It was sickening. That was back in the early 90's. After that if the customer didn't want the claws they went to the landfill.
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Re: Bear Gall
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The NY warden called me yesterday and said it’s ok to sell my VT bear gall in NY as long as my license tag remains with it. I am meeting with the buyers on Monday hopefully. I will post my results once sold.
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Re: Bear Gall
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330 that reason is just plain silly. I live in Idaho and have sold a lot of galls. They usually go for somewhere between $10 and $20 an ounce. I pack them out but I sure don't get rich. I can't imagine anyone risking fines and losing their license for that amount of money. I don't understand states that don't let you use all parts of an animal. Its silly to you but not Some, and I say some/ certain ethnic groups who have been Known as a "Fact" to poach Black bear for the medicinal qualities . Not solely for but mainly for the Gall. Several Poaching Cases on record here in this heavily imigrant State I live in. Exactly, Sundance you should google “the poaching king” scroll down and read the article from outside online
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Re: Bear Gall
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I am having a hard time understanding some on this site being negative about selling animal parts but I would bet those same people sell animal parts they have trapped or hunted. Fur,Glands,Meat and so on. I feel as long as it is lawful to do if not than it’s a law issue. Like illegal trapping and hunting. I believe that I have done my best to operate within the laws of our state and harvested my bear legally. From what I have seen our bear population in VT is reaching overpopulation. I don’t ever want to see them gone from VT and we like eating them.
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Re: Bear Gall
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They are lefty liberals vermonster. A hunter or trapper who legally takes an animal under that licence should be able to sell any part of said animal. Artificially drying up a legal regulated supply for a product that is in demand actually creates the black market by driving up the price which spawns the low lifes willing to take the chance to illegally take for just the part in demand wasting the other useful parts of the animal.
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Re: Bear Gall
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12/05/19 01:31 PM
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They are lefty liberals vermonster. A hunter or trapper who legally takes an animal under that licence should be able to sell any part of said animal. Artificially drying up a legal regulated supply for a product that is in demand actually creates the black market by driving up the price which spawns the low lifes willing to take the chance to illegally take for just the part in demand wasting the other useful parts of the animal. Well said Boco, for every legally killed gall left in the gut pile, an illegal gall is taken to supply the demand. Silly laws will not change cultures that are thousands of years old. Out of respect for the animal ,My father taught me to try to utilize as much of an animal I killed as possible. To me leaving the gall in the gut pile is like killing a buck and cutting off the antlers and leaving the meat.
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Re: Bear Gall
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I've been thinking about this thread a lot. I've tried to understand the thinking of the members who are against selling legally taken animal parts but I don't get it. Will they be ok when we can't sell legally taken fur because someone else thinks it is wrong? What about glands or other miscellaneous parts we use or sell? I have been taught to use every part I can of an animal. If there is a market someone will supply the product when it becomes lucrative enough. If it is causing a species to drift toward extinction then make it so expensive that it isn't worth the risk. I am all for laws and bag limits but also believe I should be able to use all parts of a legally taken animal.
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Re: Bear Gall
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There must be a few pages of warnings out there if every time someone is called a lefty lib gets one. How many have called out James for being a lefty lib,and others. I think your living in LA LA Land 330. People are called out on here for spewing lefty lib stuff all the time.
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I wasn't even talking to you 330,your barking up the wrong tree. It was vermonster who asked what kind of people were OK with that and I told him. For your information I live in a province where it is illegal to sell bear gall,and I'm staunch conservative. Your beef is with vermonster not me.
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I just got permission to trap a large track of land. All the owners want Is all the coyote stomach fat and the coyote gall bladders. they said they would come and do the gutting.
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I just got permission to trap a large track of land. All the owners want Is all the coyote stomach fat and the coyote gall bladders. they said they would come and do the gutting. 1 of a kind! Greenbelly an issue?
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Bear gall laws are at root racist and discriminatory. And like most lefty liberal stuff highly political and emotional.
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Re: Bear Gall
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I wasn't even talking to you 330,your barking up the wrong tree. It was vermonster who asked what kind of people were OK with that and I told him. For your information I live in a province where it is illegal to sell bear gall,and I'm staunch conservative. Your beef is with vermonster not me.
BOCO, You've got a lot of GALL stirring up trouble on here. w
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Re: Bear Gall
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I don't stir up trouble,it was that other uppity guy attacking me for a statement I made to someone else.I just dont let people away with that sort of thing without defending myself. Canadians are well liked worldwide because we are nice and polite-everybody knows that.
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Easy fellas . I was just voicing my opinion on the subject. I am surrounded by liberals here in VT. Some are good friends of mine and we disagree on things big deal. As long as your not at the far ends of the scale left or right. We need both sides to come up with the best ideas somewhere closer to the middle. Again just my opinion.
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Canadians are well liked worldwide because we are nice and polite-everybody knows that.
" I KNOW, RIGHT ? Everybody knows you are Mr. congeniality on here, Robert !!!! That's why the mods award you FREE vacations !!!! w
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I only got 1 vacation,maybe 2 in all the time I been here.Thats not too bad eh? Some guys(like you) can say anything and not get a vacation,they stay under the radar I guess. Another thing-some people don't like nice.
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I only got 1 vacation,maybe 2 in all the time I been here.Thats not too bad eh? Some guys(like you) can say anything and not get a vacation,they stay under the radar I guess. Another thing-some people don't like nice. Not true BOCO. I've had plenty of vacations for speaking my opinion. It's not free speech here unless you are a chosen one. Uppity Canadians don't have the same speech liberty as Americans. Don't you, as a subject, have to ask the Queen for permission to speak ? w
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Canadians are well liked worldwide because we are nice and polite-everybody knows that.
" I KNOW, RIGHT ? Everybody knows you are Mr. congeniality on here, Robert !!!! That's why the mods keep awarding you FREE vacations !!!! w You got the wrong person, you are thinking of Mr. Congeniality as in Sharks Den ,Kevin O'Leary; you can keep him and Boco will stay in Canada
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You got the wrong person, you are thinking of Mr. Congeniality as in Sharks Den ,Kevin O'Leary; you can keep him and Boco will stay in Canada
BOCO can't stay in Canada, He's a world famous international traveler !!! w
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Nope walleyed,no queen,Canada is the "True North strong and free".You'd be singing that if we weren't nice Canadians and let you alone after chasing your sorry arses back across the border in 1812,lol.
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Re: Bear Gall
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Nope walleyed,no queen,Canada is the "True North strong and free".You'd be singing that if we weren't nice Canadians and let you alone after chasing your sorry arses back across the border in 1812,lol.
You can't accept the fact that the ancestors of your fellow Canadian citizens lost the Revolutionary War and had their arses tarred & feathered and kicked across the Saint Lawrence River. Then you Canadians were thrashed again when you got uppity during the War of 1812. Only reason you Canadians are so nice & polite is you don't want another arse-wooping from the United States Marines Corp. w
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Re: Bear Gall
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Anyone want any coyote gal bladders? LOL
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