Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/28/19 11:03 PM
12/28/19 11:03 PM
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Do the young of the year usually move around with the mother, in their home area?
I saw a set of lone tracks today. They didn't seem to be very large bobcat prints.
Last edited by AJE; 12/28/19 11:04 PM.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/28/19 11:13 PM
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Do the young of the year usually move around with the mother, in their home area?
I saw a set of lone tracks today. They didn't seem to be very large bobcat prints. I have snared or trapped a few females over the years and then seen or even caught the female's kittens a day or two later in the spot I caught the female. I think if they are still following the female the young will hang around for a few days. As far as to if they stay in the same spot at night , I am sure the very young kittens stay in a den or spot (barn, brush pile, even knew of a litter in a ground deer blind) when they are little. Even as they get older as the female's home range is pretty small if it has plenty food available. Males can wonder pretty far, looking for females, Doubt if they use the same spot night after night. But when their back in an area I bet they use the same bed, if they like it.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: Mousey Trapper]
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12/29/19 10:52 AM
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Males are wanderers and females with young of the year will stay in her home area. This has been my observation as well- especially when the females come in heat. A big ol tom likes to spread the love far and wide.
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/29/19 12:14 PM
12/29/19 12:14 PM
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A breeding age tom has a home range thet encompasses the home ranges of two or more females.Tylemmetry studies have been done on this.They roam around,throughout the year,keeping tabs on these females,checking their condition.This will probably intensify,prebreeding time.Sometimes a tom will show up,during that time,that you had never seen before.It is a great time to be a cat trapper.
Bobcats rarely show up on consecutive days,unless on a large carcass,but never say never.I have seen itbut don't count on it.more often,I wait 2-6 weeks for a tom to return.
I once caught a heavily furred,4# kitten in mid-December.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: M.S. Pickins]
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12/29/19 05:40 PM
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If a tom is removed from an area how long does it take for another to move in usually? Curious about this as well. I generally take 6-8 cats from one 2500ac property. Generally about half males and half females. This has been going on for the last 2-3 years since I’ve been trapping and according to the previous trapper he took about the same numbers over the last 14 years. I’ve already taken 2 females and 1 male off this property in a 10 day time frame between hunts last week. I took 3 cats (2 males, 1 female) off a small 35c tract in a 2 week time frame. Haven’t trapped it yet this year. Took both a male and female last year off a 380ac tract in a 2 week time period. Start trapping it again on the 1st. Based on these catches I’m guessing Tom home ranges overlap or there’s always Toms on the prowl.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/30/19 07:36 AM
12/30/19 07:36 AM
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Around here large mature trees are typically a significant component of our good cat habitat. Open areas not so much, but closer to or back in the wooded areas and the sign picks up. Jim
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/30/19 08:46 AM
12/30/19 08:46 AM
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I'd assume biologists have done telemetry studies on bobcat and could answer that question. My guess is not. I don't see how a cat can come through a particular area once every couple of weeks or even once a month and be bunking at the same place every night. They might have a particular tree limb they use when they come through.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/30/19 11:15 AM
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Curious about this also, not so much about where they sleep, but do they walk in pretty much the same pattern each time? We set on big tom tracks and caught him in 4 checks, so I'm not so sure about the two week thing? Also we caught another big tom a day later only maybe a quarter mile away.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: M.S. Pickins]
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12/30/19 10:14 PM
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If a tom is removed from an area how long does it take for another to move in usually? On the wide open prairie it might take until a neighbor realizes the old tom isn't there any more but along a good sized creak it might be the very next week. That's what the guys I trap around and I decided. Those amazing high bank creaks change the dynamics a lot. Once they freeze over and get a skin of snow they are great for taking census and seeing how much seed stock you are leaving each year
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Bobcat homes
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12/30/19 11:12 PM
12/30/19 11:12 PM
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I'd assume biologists have done telemetry studies Yes, Wi has a lot of collared bobcats. I'm not really too sure what kind of data DNR is finding with those collared cats. Maybe someone will chime in.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: Wanna Be]
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12/31/19 02:23 PM
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Posco, curious if y’all have limits on how many can be taken or how long the season lasts. Then again it could be the amount of food in the area. I would guess more food would equal more cats or quicker routes. Hey, Wanna Be. No limit on the cats and we have snowshoe hare in abundance this year. I noticed one area that was awash with hare tracks and I didn't see a single predator track in there over the course of a couple weeks. I was really surprised at it. We have a two month season on cats that ends at midnight tonight. Pulled my sets this morning.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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12/31/19 02:44 PM
12/31/19 02:44 PM
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Maine has an average take of around three hundred cats a year between hunting and trapping. I've never seen a figure on what they estimate the population to be. I'm the only one in my area that I know of who puts any serious effort into trapping them. Our cats have to be tagged by department personnel and he keeps me filled in on the activity.
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: Leftlane]
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01/01/20 10:50 PM
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Those amazing high bank creaks change the dynamics a lot.
High bank streams better for bobcat... Makes sense, I suppose. It creates more of a funnel?
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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01/02/20 05:24 PM
01/02/20 05:24 PM
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Those amazing high bank creaks change the dynamics a lot.
High bank streams better for bobcat... Makes sense, I suppose. It creates more of a funnel? Oh yeah! I caught 7 on a half mile of creak bank thr first yr I trapped on dry land. Th4 next yr i caught 7 or 8 more on pond dams. Always set them and set heavy JMO anyway
What"s good for me may not be good for the weak minded. Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Bobcat homes
[Re: AJE]
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01/02/20 11:39 PM
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Ahh, I have just the spot in mind. 1 of my 3 properties has almost exactly what you're describing, w/ the high bank, & I've seen cat sign there in past years. I think I'll scout it this weekend.
Last edited by AJE; 01/02/20 11:40 PM.
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