bummer,what a way to start the day.

Trapper7, I think you are exactly right. The call all OSU fans are torn up about is the no-catch/no-fumble call. It was called a catch and fumble on the field and overturned on review. Calls are not overturned on review unless there is indisputable evidence. Without indisputable evidence the outcome is "the call on the field stands." The folks that criticize football rules on what constitutes a catch and the requirement for "a football move" I don't disagree with at all. Only the refs seem to know what is a catch and what is not and that's not good for the game.

How many steps does a receiver need to take after catching the ball before it's considered a reception? The NCCAA had better decide that question.

That Clemson player took three steps, before he coughed-up the ball. He made three steps trying to evade the OSU tackler, who stripped the ball from his hands.

The call on the field was a reception, fumble, and touchdown. That call was only supposed to be reversed for indisputable evidence. Those refs then said it's indisputable that it wasn't a catch!

How can you look at the videotapes in either real-time or slow-motion and say that's not a catch?

On the whole though, I'm having a good day. Am caught up on my MFA work, and ready to go to Denver on Friday.

Jim

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, and I do not claim to be a rules expert by any means, but I thought that in order for it to be a catch, he had to have control of the ball. I thought in that play, the replay showed the ball was still moving throughout those three steps and not firmly controlled, therefore the call was reversed and it was called an incomplete pass since he never had control. I don't think it would matter if it was one step or 20 steps if he was still bobbling the ball the whole time.

Dang yotetrapper30, there you go citing facts, we don't want no darn facts here, just accept that OSU had the game stolen by the refs.

Go Tigers!

You have to have control of the ball.

It looked to me like he had control of the ball in his two hands. You can see the defender's hand pry it loose.

I'd like to see the replay again though.

OSU certainly had other chances to win that game, and blew those chances by themselves.

I could say there's always next year, but we'll lose most of our best players to the NFL.

However, there are more important things than football.

Jim

If the Clemson player had taken three steps in bounds, gone out of bounds, and then the defender had pried the ball loose, do you really think they would have called that pass incomplete?

Jim

In slow motion it looked like a catch to me, but watching the replays in real time it didn't look like he ever controlled it.

Two darn good teams, it's a shame one of them had to lose that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ97OWxvcHo

My thoughts are he had control and took 3 steps.

Brother, your team got robbed on that play. I am no fan of An Ohio State University, but I do feel your pain. I have lost count on how many times that the The Michigan State University football and basketball teams have been similarly robbed in my lifetime.
Nevertheless, I still bask in the glory of beating Michigan three times in one season in basketball last year. My only regret was their failure to move further in the NCAA tournament so that we could have beaten them a forth time!

You seriously need to get your eyes checked if you saw the ball move. He caught it and never once did he regrip it or bobble it. I have seen the replay 20 times or so on ESPN and the local news stations. The ball never moved. All the analysts said it never moved. They said it was ruled incomplete because he didn't make a football move. If taking 3 steps while trying to break the tackle isn't a football move, what is?

It was a horrible call but it is over. Nothing can be done. Just like how New Orleans got shafted in the NFL playoffs last year. Forget it and move on.

They said on the field it was a completed pass and fumble. Replay official overturned it.

James Who?

I'm a Tennessee fan and watch mainly SEC games but I have to agree that that was a horrible reversal, it's definitely not indisputable evidence. Nonetheless Ohio State shouldn't have settled for so many field goals in the first half and that call wouldn't have mattered as much. From watching the game I truly believe OSU is the better team and won in every aspect except the one that counts

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1211136453247414272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1211137879218380800&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbssports.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fnews%2Fbig-ten-supervisor-of-officials-fumble-return-for-td-should-have-stood-in-ohio-state-clemson-game%2F

The more I think about it I'm becoming convinced that the Ohio State fans are just a bunch of freaking whiners. You don't hear Clemson complaining about the officiating!

I also saw the video and thought it was a catch and fumble, as called on the field. However, that was not the conclusion of the replay officials and they had a clear view of every important aspect of the play and overturned the call. Calls are not overturned without "indisputable evidence." I don't know what that evidence was or how 3 steps is not a "football move." It is just another example that only the officiating staff knows the definition of a "football move."

In my mind the game was not won or lost based on one call because no one knows how the other team would have reacted. This game was won by Clemson holding OSU to field goals in the red zone.

Randy, of course the ball "moved". Impossible not to one the guys hands that were holding the ball rock solid were moving lol. Look liked a bad reversal to me.