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connis vs snares #6723996
01/10/20 09:35 PM
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I always heard, wherever you can set a conni you can set a snare. It seems more people using connis then snares, do snares have a higher miss/loss rate? What is your reasoning for one over the other?

Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724010
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Depends on what you're after. Of course there's some legal issues as there's places you can legally set snares where you can't place bodygrips and vice versa.

Bodygrips you don't generally have to worry about fur damage or having a live animal that is visible to passerby. Snares are bit of the opposite.

Snares do have a higher no catch percentage because there isn't a trigger per se and more weather sensitive.

As for what I pick, it usually depends on how many I need to set, where I need to set, and how far I have to carry em. I'm about to set a beaver line that is almost exclusively snares because it involves a good bit of walking and a lot of slides to cover and flooding is about to happen again.

Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724013
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I have found in many cases a snare will less likely scare a critter but a coni often will because of the action when fired. On badgers I’ll pick the snare over the conis any day. A bumped snare is not the end of the game in most cases.


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724021
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Originally Posted by BuckMink
I always heard, wherever you can set a conni you can set a snare. It seems more people using connis then snares, do snares have a higher miss/loss rate? What is your reasoning for one over the other?

Depends on the species...no snared otter for me


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724030
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Lethal neck snares are an excellent and humane tool for canines and cats in the hands of an experienced snareman.
They are also good under ice for beaver.
Snaring other critters often results in a body catch so now you have a live animal damaging its pelage struggling against the thin wire.


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724055
01/10/20 10:26 PM
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I prefer coni's. But I do want to snare more Yotes

Under ice beaver is great for snares


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724072
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I concur with Boco's statement. It's also much more economic to operate with many snares than with many BG traps. BG's are virtually worthless for capturing canines.


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724116
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Ok, so more about pelt damage..

Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724130
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You not have any pelt damage that will effect the value of your hides from animals caught by the neck in snare or bodygrippers. Its easy to catch all your k9s by the neck in snares. Beavers, otters, and raccoons are more difficult but you can catch ALMOST all of them by the neck as well, if you set them correctly. Both style of traps take skills to set them correctly.

Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724141
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I like the 7x7 3/32 cable, I body snare most of my badgers if you do your checks timely, remove the snare ASAP and work the pelt on the body around a bit you should not have pelt issues.


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724233
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I remember a conversation with another trapper years ago, when we were both trapping beaver and nutria. He said he had snared a nutria in the same set every day for 15 days. At the time, I had several conibears set that had taken a nutria every day for close to the same amount of time. My thought later was that he had a snare to replace and rebuild every day, while my 220 was still working like new, and had for several years.


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: Bearguy] #6724295
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Originally Posted by Bearguy
I remember a conversation with another trapper years ago, when we were both trapping beaver and nutria. He said he had snared a nutria in the same set every day for 15 days. At the time, I had several conibears set that had taken a nutria every day for close to the same amount of time. My thought later was that he had a snare to replace and rebuild every day, while my 220 was still working like new, and had for several years.



True! ... Haha. Snare replacements.

Re: connis vs snares [Re: Law Dog] #6724340
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
You not have any pelt damage that will effect the value of your hides from animals caught by the neck in snare or bodygrippers. Its easy to catch all your k9s by the neck in snares. Beavers, otters, and raccoons are more difficult but you can catch ALMOST all of them by the neck as well, if you set them correctly. Both style of traps take skills to set them correctly.


Ya pick'n up whats ADC is put'n down ?


Originally Posted by Law Dog
I like the 7x7 3/32 cable, I body snare most of my badgers if you do your checks timely, remove the snare ASAP and work the pelt on the body around a bit you should not have pelt issues.


Altho I use 5/64" 1x19 have no badgers to snare. The part about " remove the snare ASAP and work the pelt on the body around a bit you should not have pelt issues.[/quote]"

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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724365
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The only time I have been docked price wise on fur is when I have cabled some coon around the midsection. When they are put up the snare line is pretty visible.

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The snare line isn't the problem, it's a matter of the location and how severe it is. If it damages the leather so that it's weak, you can loose a good portion of the hide in dressing.

Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6724796
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snare vs cable restraint too.big difference.









Re: connis vs snares [Re: backroadsarcher] #6724801
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Originally Posted by backroadsarcher
The only time I have been docked price wise on fur is when I have cabled some coon around the midsection. When they are put up the snare line is pretty visible.

Pretty much the same here


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Re: connis vs snares [Re: BuckMink] #6725221
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If you get the cable off the coon as soon as it is dispatched, the snare damage is not a problem most times, at least for me. At the trapping school in 2 weeks, Newt will show how to work the snare line on the coon to reduce the mark.


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