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#6738574
01/21/20 01:06 PM
01/21/20 01:06 PM
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lonewolf308
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So I just got ticketed by the warden for having my traps in a dangerous location. He walks his dog on the public land I trap and his dog stepped on my trap. Luckily, I was walking in to check them when he was coming out and talked to him. All my traps were a foot or more in the brush off of tractor paths cut around the fields. He said that was too close to where people or dogs could step on them. I asked where I should put them and was told the woods..? I explained to him that I had waited till after dog season to avoid this issue and he said people (him) walk dogs year round and it's public land. I asked to see the law because online it doesn't state where you should place them. He showed me the VA code and I conceded, but it's left open to his interpretation of where is dangerous. So when I place them in the woods and his dog steps on them is he just going to ignore it and walk away, unlikely. Seems like a losing battle for me and has pretty much turned me off from Trapping, at least for the rest of the year!
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[Re: lonewolf308]
#6738607
01/21/20 01:27 PM
01/21/20 01:27 PM
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Posts: 2,154 Tug Hill, NY
Redknot
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What type of public land is this? All public land is not the same. In order to give you any useful advice this question needs to be answered.
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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[Re: lonewolf308]
#6738610
01/21/20 01:29 PM
01/21/20 01:29 PM
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Law Dog
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His opinion is not the law the law should be the only factor to issue a ticket look up the violation code and see what it says.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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[Re: 330-Trapper]
#6738611
01/21/20 01:29 PM
01/21/20 01:29 PM
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AntiGov
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What a Farce!!!! The warden should know better!!!!!!! Yep , he is definitely not on the side of the trapper. He of all people should understand the trappers role in effective wildlife management .
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[Re: M.Magis]
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01/21/20 01:36 PM
01/21/20 01:36 PM
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AntiGov
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Without knowing the regulations, all we can do is speculate. But with our regulations here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Same here if it's a marked and or mapped public trail ....gotta be 50 ft from
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01/21/20 01:38 PM
01/21/20 01:38 PM
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KeithC
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His opinion is not the law the law should be the only factor to issue a ticket look up the violation code and see what it says. This is the best advice posted so far. Without knowing the text of the law you supposedly violated, it's impossible to tell if your actions actually violated it. Keith
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[Re: lonewolf308]
#6738630
01/21/20 01:44 PM
01/21/20 01:44 PM
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lonewolf308
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Ok to answer some questions, it was on a WMA (wildlife management area) not a state park. There's no leash law, and there's no defined walking path just tractor paths through a pine thicket and around the plowed field. The code section reads like this.To set a trap where it would be likely to injure persons, dogs, stock, or fowl.
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[Re: M.Magis]
#6738640
01/21/20 01:54 PM
01/21/20 01:54 PM
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Eagleye
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Without knowing the regulations, all we can do is speculate. But with our regulations here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Wisconsin Same- • set, place or check traps located within 100 yards of designated trails or designated use areas such as picnic areas, campgrounds and beaches or in any area in the park closed to trapping indicated on that park’s trapping area map; or
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[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/21/20 02:00 PM
01/21/20 02:00 PM
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KeithC
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Ok to answer some questions, it was on a WMA (wildlife management area) not a state park. There's no leash law, and there's no defined walking path just tractor paths through a pine thicket and around the plowed field. The code section reads like this.To set a trap where it would be likely to injure persons, dogs, stock, or fowl. There is a leash law for Wildlife Management Areas in Virginia after season closes. "Dogs It is lawful to chase with dogs or train dogs on Department-owned lands only during authorized hunting, chase, or training seasons that specifically permit these activities. Dogs must be leashed at all times outside of open hunting, chase, or training seasons." http://www.eregulations.com/virginia/hunting/wildlife-management-area-general-rules-regulations/If the area is not commonly used, I would argue the ticket. If it is commonly used, I would pay it. 1 foot off a path is still within easy range of a leashed dog. Keith
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[Re: lonewolf308]
#6738649
01/21/20 02:01 PM
01/21/20 02:01 PM
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Without a set measurement it’s all about opinion the CO writing a ticket he has any involvement in is just dumb to many personal issues and open to abuse of power it being his own dog.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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[Re: KeithC]
#6738711
01/21/20 02:45 PM
01/21/20 02:45 PM
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lonewolf308
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Thanks for the find on the leash law. Rabbit season is still in but he obviously wasn't there doing that. I wonder if applies to hunting dogs only
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