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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: pcr2] #6742737
01/24/20 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pcr2
thats cold water too.


That's what my buddy said when we were peeing off the dock at Lyman. I said, "It's deep too." laugh


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742741
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I've had so many piece of crap cars and trucks in my life that this was actually a fairly common scenario for me. I've lost enough of the brakes on the Harley to cause a pucker factor of 10 too. Not a fun situation at all.

I'm glad you're OK man. You'd think that since "inspections" here are mandatory that popping brake lines would not come as a surprise to us. I know I'm running stainless lines on the Shovelhead now.


Keep your boots dry and your powder too.

I remember when a fur check was reality.....now I'm just trapping for the love of it.

Best Regards,

JT
Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: ApocalypticGoatH] #6742752
01/24/20 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gray dog
Aren't most older vehicles equipped with cable operated rear brakes? I've used them when my brakes have failed. Not perfect but because it's a secondary system I wouldn't expect it to be.

Most of them do have cable operated rear parking brakes. Keep in mind , on all cars your front brakes do the bulk of the work.
As far as using them to stop , it all depends on how well adjusted they are and how much lining is left. My dodge ram 50 , I always kept them adjusted properly because I had to , it was a stick shift. A lot of vehicles with automatic transmissions this gets overlooked a bit because you are not using them everyday. About the only thing he could be guilty of is making sure his brake lines got inspected for wear/tear/aging of components and properly adjusted.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Cragar] #6742774
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Originally Posted by Cragar
Lug nut, I used to own a 87 Dodge Ram 50 sport , swb 2.6L 5sp 2wd black/gold bought it new right off the showroom floor. Nice little Japanese truck , loved it.

Very few of them left on the road , what is yours like ?


Mines an 89, a 2nd gen Ram 50 4WD. It's a great little truck. I've been using it as my trapline vehicle and winter beater for the last five years.

But fighting rust due to the heavy road salt in our area is getting to be a full time battle. I've replaced the rear leaf spring shackles, a frame cross member, fuel filler neck, exhaust system, fuel lines, brake lines, tranny lines and had the gas tank media blasted, brazed and sealed. I was planning on using a rust encapsulater on the frame this summer but now with this upper control arm thing (caused by a rusty frame) I don't know. This may be the end of the line for this truck.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742793
01/24/20 07:35 PM
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Lugnut, they are great little trucks mine went to the boneyard about a year ago , mostly rust issues. I had it 31 years , longest I've ever owned a vehicle for , record for me. MSRP was about 8k. Those were the days......

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742803
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That's a great run.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742839
01/24/20 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
That's a great run.

For someone like me , yes great run. I've owned lots of cars/trucks. More than 200. 100% true no b.s. I have quite honestly lost count. The real number might be closer to 300 , I don't know. Play around with cars a lot and they are just things like any other thing. I've even owned cars for literally hours before selling it for a bit more. Gotten over 25 cars for free over the years. My current daily driver I got for free , a 05 Mazda tribute awd v6.

But the Dodge I bought new , kept it all this time , was the only owner. Good truck.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742841
01/24/20 08:04 PM
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Them D50s can still be found out west or down south in pretty good shape rather cheap, buy 3 and make one from the ground up is what I did.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Law Dog] #6742851
01/24/20 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Them D50s can still be found out west or down south in pretty good shape rather cheap, buy 3 and make one from the ground up is what I did.

Getting hard to find parts for them now. One of the reasons I sent mine to the boneyard was rust. The nail in the coffin was the gas tank rotted out. There are no new ones made anymore. It's 30 years old. Pulling a used tank out of another one is iffy at best. I looked into putting in a fuel cell but it would have been a pain. One thing I've learned is when a car gets that old , it is an uphill battle to keep it running. Different if it is a classic or real popular car that parts are available. Time for something newer.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742859
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[Linked Image]

This is one of the nicest cars I've owned.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742870
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Most people never use there parking brakes. This is what modern rear drum brake cars use for the brake shoe self-adjusters. Older cars adjusted when you backed up and hit the brakes. A lot of cars rear brakes are basically useless because of never adjusting for wear. A lot of vehicles are going to disc brakes in the rear which do not need adjusted.

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742883
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Sounds like you're having our kinda luck with vehicles.

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: dirtydogtrapping] #6742884
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Originally Posted by dirtydogtrapping
Originally Posted by Cragar
Lug nut, I used to own a 87 Dodge Ram 50 sport , swb 2.6L 5sp 2wd black/gold bought it new right off the showroom floor. Nice little Japanese truck , loved it.

Very few of them left on the road , what is yours like ?


did dodge change the transmissions from 85 to 87, I had a four wheel drive D50 and went through three transmissions in it.

I had a 2 wd in a '84 D-50,went thru 3 transmissions,the 4th was going fast when I returned it to the dealer(lease).Worst experience and vehicle I've ever had to date.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742901
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Love mine I dropped a good frame on the driveway and found parts and trucks to do a total rebuild on this 87 took 3 months to rebuild it.

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Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #6742908
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Originally Posted by dirtydogtrapping


did dodge change the transmissions from 85 to 87, I had a four wheel drive D50 and went through three transmissions in it.

I had a 2 wd in a '84 D-50,went thru 3 transmissions,the 4th was going fast when I returned it to the dealer(lease).Worst experience and vehicle I've ever had to date.


Wow , never heard much problems with the earlier D50's
Automatic? 2.0L 4 cylinder? How many miles were on it when you traded in on the lease ?

You have my curiosity now.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Law Dog] #6742914
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Love mine I dropped a good frame on the driveway and found parts and trucks to do a total rebuild on this 87 took 3 months to rebuild it.

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Looks nice , looks like the sport model too. If it had bucket seats , it was the sport model.


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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742945
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I have a extended cab in the out building thatís in good shape also engine/trans ready to drop in it.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6742948
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Good looking truck Law Dog. It would be great to have a clean, rust-free one like that. Here's a pic of my Ram 50 soon after I got it. You can see the size difference next to my Tundra.

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Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: Lugnut] #6743020
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I'm rolling around in an 88 mighty max 2wd. It's an awesome little truck with 190k miles. I've got to either re-ring the engine this summer or get rid of it, it's burning waaaay to much oil.

Re: Total Brake Failure! Twice! What the heck? [Re: loosegoose] #6743027
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
I'm rolling around in an 88 mighty max 2wd. It's an awesome little truck with 190k miles. I've got to either re-ring the engine this summer or get rid of it, it's burning waaaay to much oil.



Rebuild the head or get a new one stud the head bolts add a laminated head gasket and keep driving it.


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