Ok to my family and friends who think we should do away with the electoral college system. I’ll give you numbers. Their are 3141 counties in the US. In 2016 election Trump won 3084 counties to 57 that Clinton won. Briefly that is why we have this system so to prevent only 57 counties chose who would be president. That all 3141 counties chose who becomes president.

Interesting stats. I'm passing that along to friends.
Good post

Thanks 330... Thank is explained in a very simple, but thought out manner... I will bet that even our friends in Canada and some of member liberals can comprehend.

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For more fun, I believe it was 13 states that voted for Hillary in 16, if you zero out her votes in those states, she still won popular vote.

Another thing to think about when going to the popular vote is more people will vote in that scenario because if you're in a pure red or blue state, many people just stay home knowing they aren't needed or can't change the results.

Quite possibly

Left-leaning sites dispute those numbers. They put the count around 489 Clinton and 2,623 Trump. but that's the best they can do and it reinforces your point. It's an excellent example of why we need the electoral college.

I have been thinking that, at least here in Minnesota, we should go to an electoral vote for governor. It would keep three or four counties from carrying the governor's race, like happens now.

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Should be like that in every state.

Too many large cities tells the rest of the state who they should have in office, then the whole state, we see that too many times. We do need the college for the balance of votes and power the best it can be, we hope.

No problem with the College But if what I understand is correct delegates do not have to vote as there district voted and large population centers (cities) control rural areas How about each county gets one vote

DemoRats would never win another election. I would be fine with that.

I have been talking about a state-based electoral college system for years here in PA. Then us rural folk wouldn't have liberal Governors, Lieutenant Governors, Secretaries of State, Attorneys General, State Supreme Court Justices, Comptrollers and Treasurers rammed down our throats by city folk.

I've read various different things about this. Most agree that if the electoral college was abolished, people would only have to campaign in Ney York city, California and Chicago. They could ignore the rest of the country for the most part. The heartland would be the most effected. Their voices would hardly matter at all. Obviously this ebbs and flows depending on population increases and decreases.

The electoral college is good as it keeps big cities from telling the rest of the country what to do, no arguments with that. But it is kinda strange that the candidate that most people voted for doesn't get to be president.

Interestingly, the founders thought that most people wouldn't know enough to pick a good president, and that may have been the case back when there wasnt a good way to learn about the candidates with the internet and such. They figured that usually no one would win the electoral college, and figured Congress would usually elect the president. If nobody wins the electoral college, the house picks the president from the top three candidates, with each state getting one vote, and tbe Senate picks the vice President from the top two candidates. Being stuck with a dysfunctional two party system pretty much ensures that someone will always win the electoral college though.

Thankfully our Founding Fathers had the foresight to recognize that large urban centers would control the nation election outcomes leaving rural America with little or no say and developed the brilliant system of the electoral college to deal with that problem.

There are several reasons for the college. There is also some theory behind it. For instance, when it was developed, only land owning men could even vote. That being the case, I have read theory that said the landowners could not afford to take time away to go vote. It was not as simple then so they decided to vote for people that could make their voices heard. That is just one of many theories that coincide with the factual accounts.

Libs love it when the tail wags the dog.

The libs all want to play the numbers around, but after listening to some of their reasoning the last month I'm surprised they know their street address.

Blame it on our education system for not teaching how and why our system works the way it does.
The Founders created the electoral college precisely so that the most populous States would be able to run the entire Country; the same reasoning applies today. We do not live in a "Democracy", we live in a Republic.

Interestingly, the founders thought that most people wouldn't know enough to pick a good president, and that may have been the case back when there wasnt a good way to learn about the candidates with the internet and such. They figured that usually no one would win the electoral college, and figured Congress would usually elect the president. If nobody wins the electoral college, the house picks the president from the top three candidates, with each state getting one vote, and tbe Senate picks the vice President from the top two candidates. Being stuck with a dysfunctional two party system pretty much ensures that someone will always win the electoral college though.[/quote]

There are several reasons for the college. There is also some theory behind it. For instance, when it was developed, only land owning men could even vote. That being the case, I have read theory that said the landowners could not afford to take time away to go vote. It was not as simple then so they decided to vote for people that could make their voices heard. That is just one of many theories that coincide with the factual accounts. [/quote]

If Ben Franklin could be here today he’d say, What’s this I hear about women voting? Funny we revere these men and forget things some of us didn’t like. Think Colorado would be a cage state if women weren’t voting?

Los Angeles County has 10 million people. The entire State of Wisconsin has 5 million people. Without the Electoral College most of the country would be irrelevant.