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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: coloradocat] #6761868
02/07/20 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by coloradocat
Thank you to the CREW. Once again you make my job and Todd's job much more palatable. You all are truly professionals when it comes to doing what we do.

One needs to understand how the report comes out. Without going into complete detail. I would say those IA coyotes were harvested in parts of NE. So I wouldnt bet the farm that IA coyotes are that.

AGAIN, thank you to all who helped.


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6761879
02/07/20 03:55 PM
02/07/20 03:55 PM
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Looks like the cats were down, but not as low as 2016 especially on the high cats (it was $250 in 2016 with $108 average). Probably due to the price gap between A grade and B grade cats. Totals out to a 52% decrease on the average which sucks but is a lot better then the doom and gloom predictions were. Hopefully the Nephi sale tomorrow shows the same or better. But like wissmiss said, numbers only tell you so much. Gotta see the goods to get a good idea. Thats why I mainly compare from that states previous years. Keep our fingers crossed!!!!


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6761894
02/07/20 04:02 PM
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A huge thanks to the few volunteers that spend the time helping pull this off.
Yes coyotes by state only represent where they were shipped from. Most will be from the state shown, but state jumpers can skew the numbers
Over all I would say this was a somewhat poor collection of coyotes over all. Lot of worn weak coyotes defiantly didn't help the average. Good clean sets of heavy silky coyotes and clean sets of semi- heavies were rewarded. Open, weak, commercials took a hit. III's actually were a money maker for guys if the put them up well.

Crafters pushed the cat market which helped the overall average. Westerns were what they were, no pushing or shoving to own them.

Antler sold a little over prices in the country The tanned and trinket market has softened, a number of buyers bought at what they need but did not fight one another.

I'm glad we survived and pulled it off again.

My thanks to all that support our organization.






Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6761912
02/07/20 04:16 PM
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Didn't see the fur but it sounds like maybe the coyote buyers are being slightly more cautious? Coronavirus worries?

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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6761939
02/07/20 04:48 PM
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Thank you and your crew for all your hard work and dedication. Great for the trappers!

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762051
02/07/20 07:13 PM
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Monster Toms, do you think guys sold their better early coyotes elsewhere? Just curious why so many weak, broke down coyotes...obviously later coyotes. Appreciate all the info and the effort to put the sale together...hope to be there next year with a truckload!


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762064
02/07/20 07:19 PM
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And thank you for the clarification on sale results. Makes more sense.


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762076
02/07/20 07:25 PM
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Some areas of the west never had good coyotes, drought/dryness takes a big toll on quality starting in October. Yes some of the fur was the lower end of what was taken good stuff sold else where.






Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762088
02/07/20 07:32 PM
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I think that with the high price of coyotes at the start of the season, some /many trappers sold in the country for prices they were happy with. Rather than wait until February to sell.

I know the coyote buyers were working the country very hard in November and December.

Can’t say that I blame them for selling rather than holding for a sale.


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762093
02/07/20 07:36 PM
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See below- Evidently Canada Goose sells a lot of merchandise in China. Coronavirus outbreak could not of happened at a worse time with fur sales coming up. Those that sold early will be thankfull they did. I guess Canada Goose buys lots of coyotes.



The U.S.-listed shares of Canada-based Canada Goose Holdings Inc. (GOOS.T) tumbled 9.6% in premarket trading Friday, after the luxury apparel company beat fiscal third-quarter profit expectations but lowered the full-year outlook, citing a "material negative impact" from the coronavirus outbreak in China. Net income rose to C$114.7 million ($86.2 million), or C$1.07 a share, from C$105.3 million, or 93 cents a share, in the year-ago period. Excluding non-recurring items, adjusted earnings per share came C$1.08, above the FactSet consensus of C$1.07. Revenue rose 13.2% to C$452.1 million ($339.8), matching the FactSet consensus of C$451.2 million. The company lowered its fiscal 2020 guidance, saying "the health crisis has resulted in a sharp decline in customer traffic and purchasing activity," with retail stores and e-commerce activity in China experiencing "significant reductions" in revenue. The company now expects full-year revenue growth of 13.8% to 15.0%, compared with previous guidance of at least 20% growth. The stock has dropped 13.4% over the past three months through Thursday, while the S&P 500 has gained 8.5%.

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762129
02/07/20 08:03 PM
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Stop I brought the Iowa coyotes to the sale , Only 22 there iowa, they brought 67.50 the rest came from the sand hills . Go from there , I told them that but they must of missed it. Here is the rest of the story if you were not there you have know idea of what was going on.

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762143
02/07/20 08:13 PM
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Chill out. That's why we are asking questions, trying to learn, because some of us werent there. A few generous folks are graciously taking their time to answer questions and be helpful. Thank you to those people.

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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6762542
02/08/20 01:15 AM
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Good seeing everyone and thanks to all the fine guys out there for their comments and advice on finished fur, and thanks for putting on a great auction!!!! See you next year


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Cliffy229] #6765303
02/10/20 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliffy229
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A lot of the averages do not seem to be correct. Looks to me the going by number sold and total amount, Coyotes sold just over $69 ave. (up 10%) Rats, 2.25 , (25%) grey fox almost $17.50 (up over 30%) etc.

either I'm wacko or must be the new math they talk about over on the L N Y X

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: whartonrattrappe] #6765307
02/10/20 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whartonrattrappe
Originally Posted by Cliffy229
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A lot of the averages do not seem to be correct. Looks to me the going by number sold and total amount, Coyotes sold just over $69 ave. (up 10%) Rats, 2.25 , (25%) grey fox almost $17.50 (up over 30%) etc.

either I'm wacko or must be the new math they talk about over on the L N Y X

Unless they are counting the ones not sold as $0. Havent done the math that way, but that would be my guess.


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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6765372
02/10/20 01:46 PM
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The averages are for all fur offered.






Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6765417
02/10/20 02:34 PM
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Well it says muskrats sold 100%. 569.25/254 = 2.24

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: 10bands] #6766059
02/11/20 01:57 AM
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It appears there is something wrong with the math.

Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Desertambition] #6766066
02/11/20 02:23 AM
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The statement that total sales is figured by all offered is not correct in some cases either. In some cases yes and in others no. Just a point as I don't have any skin in the outcome either way. If it was done on an Exel spreadsheet some of the cells may have an incorrect formula.

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Re: Colorado Fur Auction [Re: Monster Toms] #6766080
02/11/20 03:53 AM
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Looks like the numbers were added up by the same people that counted the votes in the Iowa caucus. Ha ha ha. Big thanks for the folks that volunteered their time even thou numbers not adding up. Ha ha ha. MD

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