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I'm usually a few years behind technological advances and new fashions and fads. So I find a video from Grunwald that says. Do not do the money cut. That it is bad for the industry. . Says the belly fur on the back side is ugly and should be cut off. Because the end users have to cut it off. Anyways.. But don't they have to cut the tail off anyway.? How many people stopped using the money cut?.
Last edited by Poorcoon; 02/13/2007:33 AM.
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768552 02/13/2008:43 AM02/13/2008:43 AM
I do it just because it's easy, regardless of whether or not it adds length or ugly fur or whatever. I hang my coons by one leg for a dog choker collar, pull the back legs tight, and zip right across from one inside ankle to the other. Then two zips from the base of the underside of the tail to form a triangle of fur around the butthole that gets left on the coon, and my opening cuts are done.
Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768699 02/13/2011:46 AM02/13/2011:46 AM
No matter how you skin a coon the belly fur Is still going to be there. Your selling that coon with every Inch of fur It was born with your just displaying It differently how can that hurt the industry? But since they do grade by size the money cut will give you that added few Inches to make a 3xl into a 4 xl. And why would a fur buyer want to pay you more money?
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: The Beav]
#6768714 02/13/2012:06 PM02/13/2012:06 PM
No matter how you skin a coon the belly fur Is still going to be there. Your selling that coon with every Inch of fur It was born with your just displaying It differently how can that hurt the industry? But since they do grade by size the money cut will give you that added few Inches to make a 3xl into a 4 xl. And why would a fur buyer want to pay you more money?
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768718 02/13/2012:09 PM02/13/2012:09 PM
No one but beav cuts straight to the buthole on the coons these days. Everyone including Groenwald in his skinning videos cuts them the same way as I do here, straight across from ankle to ankle...
Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768723 02/13/2012:12 PM02/13/2012:12 PM
I cut from ankle to ankle about 3" above the bung hole. I make one cut straight through the bung hole to the base of the tail. No reason to make those extra cuts around the bung hole. The bung hole lips can be cut off while fleshing and boarding. Or just hide them when you pleat the skirt fur.
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: The Beav]
#6768753 02/13/2012:37 PM02/13/2012:37 PM
I cut from ankle to ankle about 3" above the bung hole. I make one cut straight through the bung hole to the base of the tail. No reason to make those extra cuts around the bung hole. The bung hole lips can be cut off while fleshing and boarding. Or just hide them when you pleat the skirt fur.
I don't like pulling the guts out the but when I pull them. I suspect you use a knife more than me in that area???
I thought you said you always cut from the ankles straight to the vent in the past.
Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: The Beav]
#6768757 02/13/2012:44 PM02/13/2012:44 PM
I cut from ankle to ankle about 3" above the bung hole. I make one cut straight through the bung hole to the base of the tail. No reason to make those extra cuts around the bung hole. The bung hole lips can be cut off while fleshing and boarding. Or just hide them when you pleat the skirt fur.
I don't like pulling the guts out the but when I pull them. I suspect you use a knife more than me in that area???
I thought you said you always cut from the ankles straight to the vent in the past.
Maybe that was prior to his patent on the money cut??
Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768762 02/13/2012:50 PM02/13/2012:50 PM
I completely ignored the "don't do the money cut" statement by groeny. I was puzzled by the statement at first, but didn't take long to see an angle in it.
A couple season's ago it was, don't bother to put beaver up, just go catch more. We'll give you some gas money if you just bring them in green. Go trapper go!
If you just wanna do it for fun, a hobby, there's a fur-buyer who can't wait to meet ya!
Can't really blame a buyer either. If you have a majority of your suppliers who aren't overly concerned with the financial reward of their efforts. Suppliers who are many times happy just to find someone, a place, they can take their furs to and unload them. Why not suggest they bring them to you in a form that's cheaper for you, and easier for them.
I know a buyer who has been buying coons for 50 cents each, skinned, nothing below 29", all season. And he gets a hand-shake and Thank You! Every time he's counting out ones.
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: cfowler]
#6768799 02/13/2001:25 PM02/13/2001:25 PM
I completely ignored the "don't do the money cut" statement by groeny. I was puzzled by the statement at first, but didn't take long to see an angle in it.
A couple season's ago it was, don't bother to put beaver up, just go catch more. We'll give you some gas money if you just bring them in green. Go trapper go!
If you just wanna do it for fun, a hobby, there's a fur-buyer who can't wait to meet ya!
Can't really blame a buyer either. If you have a majority of your suppliers who aren't overly concerned with the financial reward of their efforts. Suppliers who are many times happy just to find someone, a place, they can take their furs to and unload them. Why not suggest they bring them to you in a form that's cheaper for you, and easier for them.
I know a buyer who has been buying coons for 50 cents each, skinned, nothing below 29", all season. And he gets a hand-shake and Thank You! Every time he's counting out ones.
You send the video I was talking about. And I get your point to I thought the same thing. Kind of looks like an angle. Me also
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: The Beav]
#6768802 02/13/2001:26 PM02/13/2001:26 PM
No matter how you skin a coon the belly fur Is still going to be there. Your selling that coon with every Inch of fur It was born with your just displaying It differently how can that hurt the industry? But since they do grade by size the money cut will give you that added few Inches to make a 3xl into a 4 xl. And why would a fur buyer want to pay you more money?
What about cutting out a window? With the money cut like Greg Schroeder demonstrated. When I learned that. There's no need to trim out a window.
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Re: 2 money cut or not to money cut
[Re: Poorcoon]
#6768828 02/13/2002:07 PM02/13/2002:07 PM
If you watch the video of Groenwald's guy opening his coons, he does them the same way as I do in the video I posted. I (and everyone else I know) consider that the money cut. Groenwald does not. When he says don't do the money cut, he is referring to guys who cut WAY up the belly, even as far or higher than the penis hole in the hide. They start at the ankle and make a big U shape up the belly, not straight across, leaving a big flap of belly fur on the back. This is the cut no buyers like, including Groenwald.
Originally Posted by Poorcoon
I'm usually a few years behind technological advances and new fashions and fads. So I find a video from Grunwald that says. Do not do the money cut. That it is bad for the industry. . Says the belly fur on the back side is ugly and should be cut off. Because the end users have to cut it off. Anyways.. But don't they have to cut the tail off anyway.? How many people stopped using the money cut?.