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i bet lead kills a bunch but theres always a big hole too.
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Tell my WHY would anyone want to kill an Eagle?
Don't really want to kill them but I have to scare them off from time to time trying to kill my chickens they grt right down in the pen and kind of hover trying to grab them
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Re: Eagles and Lead
[Re: danvee]
#6773604 02/17/2012:02 PM02/17/2012:02 PM
Crazy the Turkey all most became our national bird because of Ben Franklin. Im thinking it would take a bunch of ingested lead to kill an eagle or duck. They outlawed lead for waterfowl hunting and Im not thinking we have more ducks. I read not long ago the Fish and Wildlife gave the wind generators a big Im talking thousand plus incidental kill on eagles for wind generators in Wyoming and thats ok!
They call it Acceptable loss
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there are plenty of eagles in the world. i dont want to quit using lead cause 4-5 out of every thousand die from ingesting it. HOWEVER, i have been a truck driver most of my adult life. I will get behind an initiative to ban trains as they kill several every year too.
The numbers are not really known. Only the ones that are found are taken in for rehab. A lot of them do not make it. I know a guy that is not a trapper kill every otter he spots in the river because he feel they eat to many fish.
I seen a hawk fly off a high dollar bobcat I had snared. Was a giant mess stead of valuable fur. Bald eagles will clean up a pile of coyote carcasses pretty quick. Same for a beaver lying half in half out the water in your conibear. If you really want to know why people shoot eagles talk to sheepherders. They dont always ignore a newborn calf either.
Must have been a REAL big Hawk. Most hawks can not pick up a normal size cottontail rabbit.
Here in the Susquehanna and Juniata rivers we used to have muskrat houses on darn near every grass patch and island in the rivers, then along comes the plan to build White Headed Buzzard hacking towers!! No more muskrats!!! Where did they go?
The White Headed Vulture (Buzzard) is a Vulture they have NO power in there feet so they only eat carrion ( dead meat). How is the mink, bob cat population?
What I have read was the reason they outlawed lead shot for waterfowl was not because the adult eagle getting lead poison, but the eggs from eagles that ingested lead having too thin of shells and eagles were not able to reproduce because all of their eggs would crack prematurely. Of course, this could be another head fake by the antis trying to outlaw lead shot/sinkers.
do you need reading lessons getting there? dont disparage me in such a fashion. especially hiding behind an alias
Danny Clifton: Sorry if your are offended, but I hide behind nothing. I flew many hawks over the years and I know what they are capable of doing and not doing.
I think one of the reasons that raptor are protected is because there reproduction rate is so low. In most cases a Eagle will product three chick, in most but not all cases only two will make it out of the next. One of the two chicks will not make it until the next spring. In most cases but not all an eagle will only have one clutch a year. This changes in number with different raptors. JMO
been living in Southern WI for 41 years in that time we went from never seeing a bald eagle to having it be a normal thing to see . you used to have to go way up north to see a bald eagle now a trip to the next town to go grocery shopping you might easily see one.
I also don't buy that it is deer hunters causing the majority of the issue , but because they wear orange and have a short season and are highly visible deer hunters bear the blame,
never mind late season pheasant is happening when they are finding these eagles , never mind shot amounts to a lot more volume and weight than the fragments from bullets in deer that typically exit with a high percentage of retained weight.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
What are you talking about? Who are you? Can you not read? What part of a hawk flying off a dead cat IN A SNARE makes you think I claimed it was being carried. Who are you? I will tell you this I dont like being called a liar
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Crazy the Turkey all most became our national bird because of Ben Franklin. Im thinking it would take a bunch of ingested lead to kill an eagle or duck. They outlawed lead for waterfowl hunting and Im not thinking we have more ducks. I read not long ago the Fish and Wildlife gave the wind generators a big Im talking thousand plus incidental kill on eagles for wind generators in Wyoming and thats ok!
They call it Acceptable loss
Collateral damage.
Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
There is more birds killed by the wind turbines then they are for what the OP is about. also there is more eagles around me then there was when I first move in that I bought some years ago. They are just full of it .
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There is more birds killed by the wind turbines then they are for what the OP is about. also there is more eagles around me then there was when I first move in that I bought some years ago. They are just full of it .
coydog2: I have to agree about the wind turbines, and it will continue. But it is just like the lead issue, some do not believe it is happening.
What are you talking about? Who are you? Can you not read? What part of a hawk flying off a dead cat IN A SNARE makes you think I claimed it was being carried. Who are you? I will tell you this I dont like being called a liar
Well danny, this subject is closed on this site. If you want to know who I am, etc. you can send a PM or give me your phone number and I will call you on my dime.
Getting there you need to go back and reread Danny Clifton’s original post. It has not been edited and clearly says “flying off a cat” not flying off with a cat.
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I don’t know how many survive “the hatch” here but I watched an adult standing in a field watching 4 juveniles (no white yet) taking turns munching on a road kill deer about two weeks ago.
